[blindlaw] Fw: questions concerning informed choice, and DBS's policy concerning out of state services

Sat Apr 24 20:44:24 UTC 2010

That is dishonest!

Steve
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tim Shaw" <timandvickie at hotmail.com>
To: <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2010 2:02 PM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Fw: questions concerning informed choice, and DBS's 
policy concerning out of state services

>
> As a person working for a similar agency will telly ou they will infact 
> deny you sending you to the lousiana center unless you can come up with 
> specific reason that you need to attend that center of their own. For 
> example fi you were going to go into a specific vocational field and the 
> other center had a program geared toward it while theirs did not. That is 
> what the statement on out of state triaining is saying. If you can not 
> show that there is a training aspect that will be provided their that you 
> need that is not offered in state then they will only support the cheaper 
> in state training. My advice would be to find someone you know that lives 
> in lousiana and use their address to oopen a case there and get the 
> lousiana agency to send yu to the center. That would be much less of a 
> head ache
>
>> From: joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com
>> To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
>> Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 00:52:18 -0400
>> Subject: [blindlaw] Fw: questions concerning informed choice, and DBS's 
>> policy concerning out of state services
>>
>> Here's the attachment she sent. Its been scanned as well. I'd like your 
>> feed back. RJ
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: Howard-Davis, Bobbie
>> To: RJ Sandefur
>> Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 11:51 AM
>> Subject: RE: questions concerning informed choice, and DBS's policy 
>> concerning out of state services
>>
>>
>> Mr. Sandefur, please accept my condolence to you on the lost of your 
>> mother.
>>
>> If you need some adjustment to blindness training at this time, we can 
>> reopen your file and refer you the Lighthouse for the Blind of the Palm 
>> Beaches at this time for training.
>>
>>
>>
>> I am also attaching a copy the Division's policy on Informed Choice to 
>> help you in making your decision about training.
>>
>>
>>
>> I know you are aware of the DBS policy on Out-State-Services, because you 
>> attached it to your e-mail.
>>
>>
>>
>> In order to assist you with training services, please call our office and 
>> ask to have your case reopen for services at 561-681-2448 or 
>> 866-225-0794.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Bobbie Howard-Davis
>>
>> District Administrator
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> From: RJ Sandefur [mailto:joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com]
>> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 10:09 AM
>> To: Howard-Davis, Bobbie
>> Subject: questions concerning informed choice, and DBS's policy 
>> concerning out of state services
>>
>>
>> Dear Mrs. Davis, My name is Robert Sandefur, I have some questions for 
>> you concerning my right to informed choice, and the DBS policy concerning 
>> out of state services. In 1999, I attended the rehabilitation center, 
>> which is now the orientation and adjustment center, and did not find the 
>> experience to be a pleasant one. In 2004, I closed my case with DBS, due 
>> to a disagreement with my councilor at the time. However, due to having 
>> recently lost my mother, and other factors, I believe I am in need of 
>> some adjustment to blindness training, and this training should be 
>> conducted at the Louisiana center for the blind. (LCB) I was looking at 
>> the DBS web sight and came across the policy concerning out of state 
>> services:
>> Out of State Services
>> DIVISION POLICY 6.14
>>
>> SUBJECT
>> Out of State Services
>>
>> EFFECTIVE DATE
>> July 9, 2003
>>
>> REVISION DATE
>> February 14, 2008
>>
>> EXPIRATION DATE
>> This policy will be reviewed annually and updated as needed.
>>
>> PURPOSE
>>
>> To provide guidelines for the provision of out-of-state services.
>>
>> AUTHORITY
>> 34 CFR 361.50(b)
>>
>> POLICY
>> The Florida Division of Blind Services has established a preference for 
>> in-State services, provided that the preference does not effectively deny 
>> an individual a necessary service. If the individual chooses an 
>> out-of-State service at a higher cost than an in-State service, and 
>> either service would meet the individual's rehabilitation needs, the 
>> designated State unit is not responsible for those costs in excess of the 
>> cost of the in-State service. However, if the out-of-state services 
>> provides a unique service to meet the individual's rehabilitation plan, 
>> the Bureau Chief should be contacted to approve or disapproval such a 
>> service.
>>
>> Original signed by Michael Elliott, Bureau Chief, February 14, 2008 But 
>> compare this with a directive from RSA. policy as stated in 2001 in RSA 
>> PD-01-03:
>>
>>
>> POLICY STATEMENT: The State VR program must provide applicants
>> and individuals eligible for VR services with opportunities to
>> exercise informed choice throughout the VR process, including making
>> decisions about the employment goal, VR services, service providers,
>> settings for employment and service provision, and methods for
>> procuring services. To enable an individual to make such decisions,
>> the State VR agency must provide information, support and assistance
>> needed by the individual. The VR agency has the responsibility to
>> implement policies, procedures, and practices, and to develop
>> resources that enable applicants and individuals eligible for VR
>> services to exercise informed choice throughout the entire VR process;
>> these policies, procedures, and practices must be consistent with
>> Federal statutory and regulatory requirements. Mrs. Davis, Does this 
>> mean, that DBS can tell me, "RJ, we're denying your request to attend 
>> LCB, due to causts?" I do realize I'd have to open a new case with DBS, 
>> since the previous one was closed in 2004. For your convience, I've 
>> attached a document explaining what LCB is, although I'm shure you know 
>> who they are. Mrs. Davis, This is only an inquiry, and I wish to get my 
>> facts so that I'll be able to have enough information in order to make an 
>> informed choice as to where to go from here. I did study with a Seminary, 
>> and obtain my master of theology, in 2006, and I was licensed by my 
>> church to preach in 2005. It was tough loosing Mom, and I know, she'd 
>> want me to continue doing what I believe the Lord has called me to do. 
>> However, How am I going to be an effective minister, if I don't have the 
>> blindness training, needed to sirvive? Another concern I have, is I have 
>> learned some ministers start out as by-vocational. In 2004, until now,
> I didn't see that aspect of it. I have a batchors degree in criminal 
> justice. Another not so wise disision on my part. Mrs. Davis, I look 
> forward to your answer. Sencerly, Robert Sandefur
>
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