[blindlaw] Blind Attorneys

Susan Kelly Susan.Kelly at pima.gov
Tue Jan 12 15:33:03 UTC 2010


Although not yet totally blind, I also am interested in this...in the
not-quite one year since I have gone from just myopic to legally blind,
I have been showered with suggestions from otherwise intelligent and
well meaning members of the legal profession such as "how much longer
will they let you keep working?" and "why not quit and collect
disability?"  I have also been told that a reader would be a better
solution, rather than the purchase of adaptive equipment to allow me to
continue to work independently - fortunately, the governmental agency by
whom I am employed quickly accepted my desire to remain as independent
as possible, but my point is that the situation is equally frustrating
for those of us who retain some limited vision and wish to use what
little is left.

-----Original Message-----
From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org]
On Behalf Of ckrugman at sbcglobal.net
Sent: Monday, 11 January, 2010 8:28 PM
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Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Blind Attorneys

            Dennis, you raise many valid points and I although not a
lawyer 
have come to many of the same realizations over the years. I attended 
University of Michigan both for my undergraduate degree and Master's
degree 
in social work in the mid 70's through the early 80's. I also as a high 
school student was responsible for procuring many of my own text books
and 
in college recruiting and supervising readers as the Disabled Student 
Services program at that time only provided lists of students that were 
interested in reading. Much of this reading was highly technical
including 
legal research at a time when it was done in the stacks of the law
library. 
Since then much of my work as a social worker and paralegal have been in
an 
advocacy capacity. Being also active in the gay community I too have
noticed 
the differences in civil rights action that I deal with in the gay
community 
as compared to the blind community. As president of a local NFB chapter
I am 
contacted frequently by blind people that experience discrimination or a

lack of services because of unmet needs. Many of these people do not
have a 
clue as to how to collectively or individually advocate to bring about 
individual or system wide change. I have addressed many of these issues
on 
this and other list serves with varying degrees of success and I hope
this 
results in a stronger sense of advocacy both by lawyers and nonlawyers
to 
bring about acceptable standards. Unfortunately with the ADA a mindset
has 
been created where a "one shoe fits all" mentality has been created
although 
the law does not require disabled students to accept all services. When
I 
returned to school about ten years ago to get my paralegal certificate
the 
community college staff in the disabled student services program were 
shocked that I did not rely on them for services other than reading
tests. I 
found that the qualifications of the readers varied and as I had done in
the 
employment world just dealt with it not requiring any additional extra
time 
although it was given. Perhaps this will stimulate other discussion on
this 
topic.
Chuck Krugman, M.s.W., Paralegal
President NFB Central Valley Chapter
1237 P Street
Fresno ca 93721
559-266-9237
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dennis Clark" <dennisgclark at sbcglobal.net>
To: "NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 6:34 PM
Subject: [blindlaw] Blind Attorneys


> If you are a blind lawyer or second or third year law student please
read 
> on.  We are pribeleged to be lawyers and this is an appeal for you to
join 
> with me to begin formulating a long term legal strategy which will
enable 
> us as blind people to make the same kind of progress in kind and
degree as 
> other minority groups have made during the past 60 years.  This will 
> involve each of us becoming experts on the legal histories of women, 
> blacks, and gays, to understand the seminal cases and legislation
which 
> has led to their progress, and to develop a well thought out, cohesive

> legal theory for blind civil rights which uses the issues and cases of

> these other groups as precedent or persuasive support for our own 
> analogous legal claims.
>
> When I was in law school I was fortunate to get to know one of the 
> attorneys who worked on the Jackie Robinson law suit which integrated 
> professional baseball.  He was a celebrated law professor and lawyer
who 
> participated in this law suit as a volunteer civil rights lawyer for
B'nai 
> B'rith.  Most of the successful civil rights cases which have led to
the 
> equality that blacks benefit from today were fought by the NAACP Legal

> Defense Fund and B'nai B'rith both together and separately.  Thergood 
> Marshal was also a critical global thinker and player with the NAACP
Legal 
> Defense Fund and it was those successes which led President Johnson to

> appoint him to the Supreme Court.
>
> My professor told me that the Jackie Robinson case was planned long
before 
> Jackie Robinson himself was identified as the best plaintiff for the
case. 
> In the 40's and 50's a group of very brilliant lawyers and law
professors 
> talked and met together frequently to create a long term legal
strategy 
> which could shape and reorient the law to achieve civil rights
progress 
> for both blacks and Jews.  They carefully decided which cases needed
to be 
> brought ahead of other cases because obviously some cases will become 
> seminal and have a larger impact on society than others.
>
> The decision to challenge professional baseballs prohibition against
black 
> players was one of these key strategic decisions.  Once it was decided
to 
> file this important case, they set out to find the right player to be
the 
> plaintiff.  He said that they knew they needed a player who was
perfect in 
> every way.  The player would need to be a great hitter and be pretty
much 
> qualified to play every other position on the field at a professional 
> level. The key was to have a player who was so unbelievable in every
way 
> so that any argument which could be made against hiring such a black 
> player would be clearly irrational, and as such based purely on racial

> prejudice.  Beyond this, he said that they needed a player who could 
> emotionally withstand the abuse which would be aimed at him by players
and 
> fans once the case was won and he was hired.  He was going to be the 
> target of much hatred, he would not be permitted to stay in hotels
with 
> the rest of the team in many cities, he could not eat in the same 
> restaurants as the rest of the team in many cities, and his life
really 
> could be at risk.  It was undeniable that this was going to take a
very 
> special person and they waited quite a while to file the suit until
they 
> found jus that right person, and that man was Jackie Robinson.
>
> The main point here is that the NAACP Legal Defense Fund and B'nai
B'rith 
> didn't simply file cases willie nillie, but rather they chose cases 
> carefully so as to move the courts along slowly but surely.  Filing a 
> dubious case where there is a fifty fifty chance of losing would have
been 
> understood as potentially counter-productive.  Clearly if we as blind 
> people win a case we have a precedent in our favor, but if we lose a
case 
> this is a setback because we have created a precedent that is contrary
to 
> our civil rights progress.
>
> I am confident that I will be attacked for this, but I believe that we

> have steadily lost ground over the past 30 years in both education and

> employment.  Obviously today's young blind adults can not know this 
> because as is true for all people, our reality is shaped mostly by
what we 
> are experiencing.  Moreover there is a human prejudice that today must

> always be better than yesterday.
>
> but my claim is that those of us who were teenagers and young adults
in 
> the 60's and 70's had more opportunities than similarly situated blind

> people today.  When I took the PSAT, SAT, ACT, GRE LSAT, and 4 bar
exams, 
> I was given fair exams by competent readers.  To have done less than
this 
> in those days would have been regarded as unthinkable and absurd by
the 
> agencies providing these tests because it would have been thought as 
> simply unfair. Today one is lucky if the reader provided by any of
these 
> agencies is barely literate.
>
> For me most of these exams predated the ADA and my claim is that the
ADA 
> is the problem.  I have dealt with a number of these agencies on
behalf of 
> disabled clients who have come to me for help, and I can tell you that
the 
> agencies think the ADA empowers them to simply give blind people a
reader 
> of the agencies choosing.  On numerous occasions I have been told by 
> representatives of these agencies that all they are required to do is 
> provide a reader of their choosing.  I point out that the ADA says 
> "qualified reader," not just a reader.  Inevitably they then claim
that 
> all their readers are qualified even though they can not articulate
what 
> steps they have taken to verify this to be true.  Further discussion 
> usually results in a very smug acknowledgement that they hold all the 
> power and if we think we can do something about it then go ahead.
They 
> are right.  We have become powerless, but that can change if those of
us 
> with law school educations come together and force a change.
>
> I would be curious to know how many blind students there are today at
the 
> 5 top ranked engineering schools in the U.S.  My guess is zero, but I
hope 
> I am wrong about this.  Throughout the 60's and 70's there were a
number 
> of us.  I attended Stanford in Mechanical Engineering from 1977 to
1981 
> and all of my materials were provided to me in Braille including
thousands 
> of raised line drawings, and without these materials it would have
been 
> impossible for me to do the program.  One of my engineering professors
was 
> a retired Admiral from the Navy and one day he asked me if an optacon 
> would be useful to me and if I would like one?  I told him that I had
a 
> little experience with it, but they cost $5000 and I wasn't sure that
I 
> could afford it or that it would be useful enough to justify the cost.
He 
> had an interesting response.  He said, Dennis first of all Stanford is

> rich so they can afford it.  Second, he said, "Stanford admitted you
and 
> it is Stanford's responsibility to provide you what ever resources you

> need to be successful."  Has anyone heard any professors today say 
> anything like this? I think not.  On these forums I have read of a
blind 
> college student being told by a professor that he could not play in
the 
> school band because he was blind.  I would have thought that even the 
> dumbest professor in the world could have gotten this right simply
because 
> of Ray Charles and Stevie Wonder.  I recall a law school dean at the 
> University of Alaska stating that a blind applicant could not be
admitted 
> because blind people can not be lawyers.
>
> Another of my professors was Robert Hofstadter.  He had a Nobel prize
in 
> Physics.  I approached him near the midterm, and asked him if we could

> arrange for someone to read the midterm to me.  He immediately
responded, 
> Well why don't you come to my office the morning of the test and I
will 
> read it to you, which he did.  I have read of professors who now shoot

> their exams over to the disability services office to be read aloud by

> someone completely unable to read aloud.  The professor can't be
bothered 
> today. When we finished Professor Hofstadter said that he wished he
could 
> do this with every student because he would then really know what
students 
> did and didn't understand and he would then know what he needed to
spend 
> additional time on in lectures.
>
> There was no disabled students office to function as an obstacle
between 
> my professors and me.  There was no disabled students office which had
the 
> responsibility to provide me with Braille or readers or anything else,
and 
> this was a plus not a minus because today these offices frequently
fall 
> down on the job and the student is left completely holding the bag.
No 
> business would rely on a vendor which comes through only 60 or 70 per
cent 
> of the time, particularly when the business has no power over the
vendor. 
> This is a formula for disaster and no sensible manager would do this
yet 
> blind students are now forced into this situation all the time.
Because 
> of this lack of accountability by disabled students offices I have 
> recently read a discussion where a blind student is asking how he can 
> handle a college math class using readers because he doesn't have a 
> Braille math book.  No sighted student would be expected to do college

> math without a print book and they can see the board.  During the past
20 
> years I am confident that we have spent tens of millions of dollars on

> disability student offices and the students now have less than we had
in 
> the 70's without all this money having been spent.  Why?
>
> I  would argue that we as lawyers need to rethink our current
situation 
> and get a handle on the legal twists and turns that brought us here.
My 
> thinking is that we should begin by revisiting Plessy v. Ferguson an
the 2 
> law school cases which overturned Plessy.  The Supreme Court decided
that 
> separate but equal can never actually be equal, so Plessy was done
away 
> with.
>
> However, almost all the law which governs our lives, rights and 
> opportunities as blind people is openly based on the notion that
separate 
> but unequal treatment for us is acceptable.  We actually spend most of
our 
> time as blind people asking for separate but unequal treatment as an 
> accommodation.  Women, blacks, and gays do not do this.  They are
clear 
> that separate is always unequal and they are having none of it.
>
> Consider this.  When I was in law school an issue arose concerning
women 
> law school students.  For some reason there is a shower in one of the 
> men's restrooms at the University of Chicago Law School.  The law
school 
> was built in the 50's before there were many if any women law
students. 
> There are certainly women's restrooms, but none with a shower.
>
> Men and women alike have taken in recent years to exercising while at 
> school and some of them wish to shower after they run or exercise.
This 
> is not a problem for men since there is a shower, but what can women
do? 
> It was initially proposed that women could go over to the main campus
to 
> the gym and shower there.  This is about 4 blocks from the law school 
> across the midway.  This was a no go as far as women were concerned.
They 
> asked why should they have to go a total of 8 blocks round trip to
shower 
> when men could shower without leaving the law school?  At first the 
> administration argued that since women needed to shower because they
were 
> already exercising then why wouldn't they be willing to go across
campus 
> since a little additional exercise was all that was being proposed? 
> However, the universal consensus of men and women alike based on
common 
> sense and basic fairness was that this was not acceptable.  It was
viewed 
> as pretty much obvious that it would be unfair to expect women to have
to 
> do more than men when they engaged in the same activity as men.  I
dare 
> say that those reading this would probably agree and I'm asking you to

> keep on that same fairness hat when you consider the following
question.
>
> Why is it fair for a blind person to have to take twice as long on an
exam 
> as a sighted person in order to obtain an equivalent valid score?  My 
> claim is that it is not fair and women would not put up with it for a 
> second. Women would tell you to figure out how to do it with out them 
> taking on any burden which is greater than that of men.  They would be

> right.  As a matter of testing science and methodology it is possible
to 
> create an exam which blind people could take in the same length of
time 
> which would be equally valid, but it is not being done because we have

> permitted them to dump the burden of accommodation on us rather than 
> requiring them to spend more money validating their standardized
tests.
>
> Would a professional quarterback ever be expected to play football in
an 
> important game with a center that he has never had the opportunity to 
> practice with?  No.  This would be regarded as absurd and totally
unfair. 
> Yet we are expected to work with readers on exams that our entire
futures 
> and jobs are dependent upon; with readers who we've never met, tested
or 
> practiced with and who often can not even read English aloud
accurately. 
> Women would not put up with this.  Blacks would not put up with this.
We 
> do, and the reason we do is that we feel powerless to do anything
about 
> it. We have come to think like Blanche in A Streetcar Named Desire,
that 
> we must depend on the kindness of strangers.
>
> I worked for 5 years for a very large law firm, and we never
ourselves, 
> nor did we ever advise our clients to depend on the kindness of the
other 
> side. The parties on the other side wanted to win because they wanted 
> their own way, and our clients also wanted to win because they wanted 
> their own way. There was no kindness on either side and that is how it

> should be in matters of law.  As lawyers it is our mandated
responsibility 
> to zealously represent our clients which means it is our job to fight
them 
> with everything we have to make certain that our clients win.  That's
what 
> lawyers do.  We are priviledged to be lawyers.  We have one power that
no 
> one else has.  As all non lawyers must acknowledge, you can write 
> thousands of letters to someone trying to get them to talk with you
and 
> they can throw them in the trash. You can light up their switchboard
all 
> day long with phone calls and they can tell the operator to say that
they 
> are not in.  However, we as lawyers have the power to force them to
talk 
> with us simply by serving a complaint on them and they will definitely

> talk with us in front of a judge.  They will not ignore that.
>
> I'm sure I have offended some, bored most, and confused others.  But
if 
> you are a lawyer and I have struck a chord with you and reawakened for
a 
> moment a memory of why you went to law school to begin with, please 
> contact me.  We have the knowledge and the power to make real change
for 
> blind people if we choose to come together like the NAACP Legal
Defense 
> Fund and B'nai B'rith. Thanks for reading and I hope to talk with you.
>
> Warmest regards,
> Dennis
>
>
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