[blindlaw] Portable devices

Fri Mar 9 17:15:13 UTC 2012

Hi all,

I have a court hearing this morning where I will need to read several questions to witnesses.  I use my Iphone and a Refreshabraille 18 braille display.  This works very well.  Hope this information helps.

Robert D. Dittman
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From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Daniel K. Beitz
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 10:24 AM
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Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Portable devices

The advantage of apple over the laptop is that it reads iBook's and presumably amazon books as well.  Other devices and programs can read books in epub format, but not protected formats.  

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From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Steve Jacobson
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 11:05 AM
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Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Portable devices

Could you comment on handling PDF documents on the apple devices and also reviewing text files, searching, and marking your place and such?  I know these were issues in older Apple devices but have been addressed to some extent on newer devices.  

When looking at devices specifically developed for the blind, one should look at the BookPort Plus from the American Printing House for the Blind which has some WI-FI capability as well as the similar device sold by Freedom Scientific, the PlexTalk Pocket or whatever it is called.  I am not certain that a small laptop is still not the best solution for dealing with a wide variety of information, but I know that the Apple devices are very nice.  I did not have a good experience using a Netbook, but some have and they are getting better.  HP and Toshiba make some small laptops that are not much bigger than Netbooks and because they have small screens and no CD-Rom drives, they have good battery life and are light weight.  The Apple devices also have the advantage of working with a bluetooth keyboard and can be paired to braille displays, which is something the devices for the blind such as the Stream and the BookSense can't do.  The choice just isn't that simple, though.  It depends a lot on one's personal patterns of work such as the kinds of documents reviewed, whether one strictly reads or one does editing, to what degree one needs to access the internet and so forth.
Something like the I Phone and some I pads let you access the internet through the 4G networks from anywhere you have network coverage while other devices can only access the internet with Wi-Fi coverage.  The Booksense and the Stream must get their information through a connection to a computer.
How else can I confuse the issue?

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Fri, 9 Mar 2012 07:50:38 -0500, Daniel K. Beitz wrote:

>I have a book sense, and it was nice.  But devices like this are very 
>expensive for the benefits you get, and don't offer anything close to 
>the functionality of an iPod touch.  I use an IPad for my personal 
>reading
needs
>now because it has a better speaker, and can read any audio format plus 
>any book on the Itunes library is also accessible.  The iPhone has a 
>decent speaker as well, better than book sense.  The apple portable 
>products are worth learning.

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>From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] 
>On Behalf Of Andrew Webb
>Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 11:10 PM
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>Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Portable devices

>Randy,

>Thanks much.  Yes, someone did mention this to me, I believe it is the 
>Book Sense.  I will look into it.

>Otherwise, people are jut telling me to get an iPod Touch or an iPhone.

>Regards,
>Andrew

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>From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] 
>On Behalf Of Farber, Randy
>Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 9:53 PM
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>Andrew

>	I have heard that HIMS makes a similar device.  It is slightly more 
>expensive than the Victor Reader Stream, but apparently does more.

>Randy

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>From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] 
>On Behalf Of Andrew Webb
>Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 8:27 PM
>To: 'NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List'
>Subject: [blindlaw] Portable devices

>Hello all,

> 

>I would like to identify a highly portable and compact electronic 
>device that might be ideal for storing and reviewing data on the go.  
>The piece
I'm
>envisioning is one that I could easily carry along and pull out just 
>about anywhere, whether that's on the bus/train, working around the 
>house,
sitting
>at the coffee shop, attending kids' soccer practice, etc.  I could use 
>it
to
>download materials including cases, statutes, and assorted other 
>documents in a variety of digital formats.  I'd like to be able to 
>easily arrange my downloads into files for quick retrieval and review, 
>and to be able to highlight/bookmark salient portions of text.

> 

>Could I ask if, based either on personal experience or worldly wisdom, 
>anyone can suggest a device along these lines?  It has come to my 
>attention that the Victor Reader Stream  might be an apt choice, but I 
>wondered if there might be some other good possibilities out there.

> 

>Many thanks in advance!

> 

>Regards

>Andrew Webb

> 

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