[blindlaw] conference call for LSAT

RJ Sandefur joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com
Mon Jun 30 22:00:23 UTC 2014


Aimee, I have a friend Helga who is wanting to become a lawyer. RJ
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From: "Aimee Harwood via blindlaw" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
To: "Manners, Derek" <dmanners at jd16.law.harvard.edu>; "Blind Law Mailing 
List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2014 5:43 PM
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] conference call for LSAT


> That would be very helpful for me. I want to go to a couple schools in PA 
> and want to move there about a year early to hopefully qualify for some 
> assistance with tuition via grants and tuition waiver as well as 
> scholarships. I am currently living in TN and they are covering the Kaplan 
> class right now but I don't know if they will do anything for law school.m
>
> Aimee
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jun 30, 2014, at 4:46 PM, "Manners, Derek via blindlaw" 
>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> I would be happy to share my experiences on the Rehab section.  I applied
>> to 11 law schools in 10 states and did detailed analysis of the VR
>> situation in all the states I got accepted in.
>>
>> I was also successful at getting the Kaplan small group tutorial paid for
>> by interpreting some of the language in my IEP as covering it.
>>
>> Finally, I was able to petition my VR to pay for me to attend an out of
>> state school which might be an option if your VR is more generous than VR
>> program in the state where the law school is located.  IL and MA Voc 
>> Rehab
>> do not offer as much as TX did so I wanted to keep my plan with TX for
>> example.
>>
>> Best
>> Derek
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 4:25 PM, Sexton, bruce via blindlaw <
>> blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Okay, sounds like we have interest.
>>>
>>> I propose some of the following topics,  add to it please.  Each major
>>> topic
>>> might be substantial enough to be their own call.  If we want to skip a
>>> topic due to lack of interest we can.
>>>
>>> Accommodations
>>> *  requesting accommodations from LSAC
>>> *  What accommodations have been granted in the past.
>>> *  What test formats are available
>>> *  Of the available test formats, what is included, what are the
>>> challenges/advantages to each
>>>
>>> Test Preparation
>>> *  test prep material or companies that are most accessible. (Kaplan's
>>> books
>>> are new and not completely accessible as of June 30, 2014, bookshare's
>>> formulas are removed in the Logic game sections)
>>> *  how to self-advocate for accessible material.
>>> *  what if self-advocacy does not work?
>>> * what are work around people use?
>>>
>>> LSAT Alternative Techniques Advantages and challenges:
>>> *  Excel
>>> *  Braille
>>> *  Magnet boards or other physical pieces
>>> *  speed and accuracy (what is blindness related and what is lack of
>>> practice/skill/ individual limits.)
>>> * keeping track of all the elements (answer choices, queries, passages,,
>>> game rules, pieces etc.)
>>>
>>>
>>> Reader/amanuenses:
>>>
>>> * to use or not to use
>>> * how to strategically use a reader/amanuenses on the LSAT or in
>>> preparation
>>> *  prep with a LSAC chosen reader
>>>
>>> Rehab:
>>>
>>> *  What are the strategies people use to request rehab's assistance.
>>> * what kinds of services have VR programs provided pre-law students?
>>> *  What law schools should a student attend while seeking VR assistance?
>>> *  what can VR provide while in law school?
>>>
>>>
>>> I propose we have someone take notes to provide future blind students 
>>> the
>>> info we come up with.  We could update the info or have calls like these
>>> periodically.
>>>
>>> -Bruce
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
>>> Stewart,
>>> Christopher K via blindlaw
>>> Sent: Monday, June 30, 2014 5:02 AM
>>> To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] conference call for LSAT
>>>
>>> Hello All,
>>>
>>> Please count me in on this conference call. My perspective is that of
>>> someone who could not get support from his local Voc Rehab because of
>>> the cost of the prep courses but who nonetheless scored very well on
>>> the exam using only prep books gathered from Bookshare.
>>>
>>> It is time for those of us in practice and in law school to move
>>> toward creating a single place as a resource for blind students
>>> interested in taking the LSAT particularly where continued increases
>>> in accessibility of legal materials makes the mainstream legal
>>> profession more and more viable for blind individuals. Speaking from
>>> my own experience, the actual process of making law school accessible
>>> has run much more smoothly than that of taking the LSAT. In fact, the
>>> headaches surrounding the LSAT created undue anxiety toward law school
>>> itself. There is no reason for the LSAT to be more stressful than it
>>> already is.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Chris
>>>
>>> --
>>> Chris K. Stewart
>>> University of Kentucky College of Law, J.D. Candidate, 2016
>>> California Institute of the Arts, B.F.A. 2010
>>> Ph:
>>> (502)457-1757
>>>
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