[blindlaw] Citations

Sun Sep 28 16:55:52 UTC 2014

I'd also be willing to go over any citation you need help with so you can make a cheat sheet. I'm an executive article editor on the harvard  human rights journal and have learned most the blue book and I use zoom text so can look up any that you may need that I'm not familiar with. 

Best
Derek Manners

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> On Sep 28, 2014, at 11:22 AM, Laura Wolk via blindlaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi Rahul and all,
> 
> I, too, have had the issue with horrible unresponsiveness in
> footnotes. it is maddening. i have uninstalled/reinstalled both word
> and jaws with no luck. however, rahul, I have found the problem is
> much worse with msword 2013 than it is with 2010 so, when doing
> editing/writing papers, i use 2010 instead.
> 
> as for your BB questions: do you use the online edition? it is very
> helpful, but not perfect, as all of the font  changes are not
> detectable with jaws. Do you have a research librarian? for me, I have
> found that the best way for me to internalize the formatting is to
> talk it out and write it out in a way that makes sense to me. this was
> extremely helpful. I would be happy to talk through some of the more
> common sources with you but, really, you should try to find  a
> resource at your school that you can talk through these things with as
> they come up. I am lucky in that, iwth law review, you do things over
> and over and over again in a short period of time and so the
> internalization process is quick, but I remember last year being so
> frustrated that I had gone over something in legal research and then
> couldn't remember it months later. If you're in that position, i think
> creating a file for yourself with your own notes will be very helpful.
> 
> in the short term, have you considered employing a reader? Perhaps you
> could at least discern from the bb what elements need to be a part of
> your citation, create simply textual citations with no italics,
> smallcaps, etc, and then go to your reader with the bb and have them
> tell you how the bb formats the different sources.
> 
> Anyway, just throwing out some ideas. hopefully some of it is helpful.
> 
> Laura
> 
>> On 9/28/14, Gerard Sadlier via blindlaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> Hi Rahul,
>> 
>> Jaws can be unresponsive with footnotes, especially in big documents.
>> However, this shouldn't be normal. Perhaps there is a problem with
>> JAWS?
>> 
>> Ger
>> 
>>> On 9/28/14, Derek Manners via blindlaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> I'm not a jaws user but one suggestion I'd have at least to make the Jaws
>>> part more manageable is to create a second word document with the
>>> footnotes
>>> but just have them as main text in list form until you are ready to put
>>> then
>>> in the paper. Then you'd just have to copy paste once they are formatted
>>> perfectly after you've written the paper.
>>> 
>>> As for the bluebook, I know they have electronic versions that I believe
>>> are
>>> JAWS friendly and also searchable.
>>> 
>>> But I'm sure others have more experience/better advice.
>>> 
>>> Best
>>> Derek Manners
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Sep 28, 2014, at 3:19 AM, Rahul Bajaj via blindlaw
>>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> 
>>>> I hope this message finds you well. I sometimes find it hard  to cite
>>>> sources correctly in  my research papers. Citing cases is not difficult,
>>>> but I struggle with news articles, research papers in journals, etc.
>>>> Even
>>>> though I have repeatedly gone through the nineteenth edition of the blue
>>>> book, I haven't been able to fully internalize the myriad citation
>>>> techniques.
>>>> This problem is further exacerbated by the fact that JAWS acts in a very
>>>> sluggish and unresponsive manner when you try to access or modify
>>>> footnotes, so this makes the experience all the more unpleasant.
>>>> The upshot of this problem is that my research papers usually contain
>>>> very
>>>> few footnotes- nothing more than fifteen or twenty. As you can imagine,
>>>> this greatly reduces the quality and veracity of the paper.
>>>> I would love to know what strategies you guys employ for grappling with
>>>> this issue.
>>>> 
>>>> Best,
>>>> Rahul
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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