[blindlaw] class notes

Fri Sep 18 12:26:38 UTC 2015

Hi Amy,

First off, I want to start by saying that I think you should use
whatever means possible to achieve success in school.

I've never used a notetaker before, so I'm not sure how schools handle
it. However, I want to make sure that your school is providing another
law student to take your notes in class. I can't imagine that an
undergraduate student, unless unusually advanced, would be able to
make the determinations of what constitutes important information,
particularly in a class where the socratic method is relied on.

Also, again, it's your party, and you should do whatever works for
you. However, an important thing in law school is learning to take a
lot of information and create a concise statement of the law. So, even
while using a notetaker, I would suggest taking your own notes if only
for the purposes of learning to quickly accomplish this. But, again,
at the end of the day, it's whatever helps to make you successful.

Best,
Chris

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> Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2015 19:08:15 -0400
> From: Aimee Harwood <awildheir at gmail.com>
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> Hello everyone,
>
> I have a few questions about note takers provided by the school and clas
> notes.  1. If a person is granted a note taker, is the blind student
> required to take notes and should that blind student be scrutinized about
> the fact that they are or are not also taking notes?  2.  Are there
> guidelines that schools provide the note taker that indicates what they can
> or can not include in the class notes?  3.  Is anything said in class
> allowed to be included in the class notes by the note taker?  4.  Is the
> blind student allowed to request things  that are said in class that are not
> currently included in the class notes to be included in the notes provided
> by the note taker?
>
> ,If there is any other information regarding notetakers and class notes that
> I may not have thought of, please don't hesitate to throw it in.
>
>
> Aimee
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> Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2015 19:15:28 -0400
> From: "Sy Hoekstra" <sy.hoekstra at gmail.com>
> To: "'Blind Law Mailing List'" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Class Notes
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> I think you should be given whatever accommodations you need to both take
> part in class and end up with solid notes. So if that means you don't take
> notes while someone else does, that's fine. Also, anyone who actually
> scrutinizes and remarks on whether you're taking notes is a bit ridiculous.
> And yes, you should definitely feel free to ask your note taker to take
> better notes, or switch to a person who is better at taking notes. I have
> never heard of guidelines on this subject, but that doesn't mean they don't
> exist. My undergraduate school definitely did quality control on my note
> takers. But I just took my own notes in law school.
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Harwood via blindlaw
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> Cc: Aimee Harwood <awildheir at gmail.com>
> Subject: [blindlaw] Class Notes
>
> Hello everyone,
>
> I have a few questions about note takers provided by the school and clas
> notes.  1. If a person is granted a note taker, is the blind student
> required to take notes and should that blind student be scrutinized about
> the fact that they are or are not also taking notes?  2.  Are there
> guidelines that schools provide the note taker that indicates what they can
> or can not include in the class notes?  3.  Is anything said in class
> allowed to be included in the class notes by the note taker?  4.  Is the
> blind student allowed to request things  that are said in class that are
> not
> currently included in the class notes to be included in the notes provided
> by the note taker?
>
> ,If there is any other information regarding notetakers and class notes
> that
> I may not have thought of, please don't hesitate to throw it in.
>
>
> Aimee
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> Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2015 19:10:23 -0500
> From: Alosha Moore <aloshamoore at gmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Class Notes
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> Amy:
> No, if The blind student requests to have someone provide them with notes,
> they are not required to continue taking their own notes. That note taker is
> required to be competent and cognizant of both visually presented material
> as well as auditory. The blind student is allowed to request the note taker
> to be aware of specific information that they deem pertinent, but it is
> better to find a note taker that already takes good notesand does not have
> to make major changes to suit both of you.
> My note taker happens to be one of the top in our class and we've set up a
> drop box system that suits both of us. Remember, this is a very reasonable
> request as many professors depend on conveying information visually which
> does not suit the blind student at all.hope this helps and feel free to ask
> for clarification.
> Warm regards, Alosha Moore.
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>> On Sep 17, 2015, at 6:08 PM, Aimee Harwood via blindlaw
>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> I have a few questions about note takers provided by the school and clas
>> notes.  1. If a person is granted a note taker, is the blind student
>> required to take notes and should that blind student be scrutinized about
>> the fact that they are or are not also taking notes?  2.  Are there
>> guidelines that schools provide the note taker that indicates what they
>> can or can not include in the class notes?  3.  Is anything said in class
>> allowed to be included in the class notes by the note taker?  4.  Is the
>> blind student allowed to request things  that are said in class that are
>> not currently included in the class notes to be included in the notes
>> provided by the note taker?
>>
>> ,If there is any other information regarding notetakers and class notes
>> that I may not have thought of, please don't hesitate to throw it in.
>>
>>
>> Aimee
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
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