[blindlaw] ; Determining Page Numbers when Reading Cases in WestLaw Next

[Shannon Dillon]

Has anyone used the copy with citation Laura briefly mentions at the
end of her explanation?  The last time I asked Thompson West about it,
it was not accessible.  I think you have to select with the mouse.  I
can't remember exactly the steps now but it was not something I was
able to simulate at the time.  Does anyone have another experience?


On 12/7/16, Laura Wolk via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Hi Krista,
>
> I will tell you my strategy, but I'm sure others use different ones.
>
> As Amy explained, the text of a Westlaw case has the pagenation to
> multiple reporters.  These are usually called parallel citations.
> There can be two or sometimes three different reporters, and they are
> listed at the top.  To distinguish the reporters, different numbers of
> asterisks are placed next to the page numbers associated with each
> respective reporter.  Westlaw cases use a system of star pagenation,
> i.e., instead of having a one-to-one correspondence between a page in
> Westlaw and a print page as you noticed, the case will just mark where
> the pages for the various reporters change as you read through the
> case.
>
> The relevant report from the West National Reporter system is **ALMOST
> ALWAYS**  the reporter to which you will cite, and it **ALMOST
> ALWAYS** has one asterisk next to it for purposes of star pagenation.
> The most common exception to this, at least in my experience, would be
> citations to recent Supreme Court opinions.  Those opinions take about
> five years to make it into West's U.S. reports, meaning that recent
> opinions are typically cited to the Supreme Court Reporter.  Normally,
> that reporter is marked by two stars, but in instances where there is
> no citation to the U.S. reporter yet, it is marked with only one. As
> an example, compare NLRB v. Noel Canning, 134 S. Ct. 2550 (not yet
> printed in U.S. reports) with Blair v. United States, 250 U.S.
> 273.
>
> My strategy for pinciting is clumsy, but it works. I simply find the
> text I want, then doa control+f and search for the next asterisk.
> making sure it is marked with the proper number of asterisks, I just
> count back by one.  This method has its pitfalls.  The most
> frustrating one is when you're citing something from the last page of
> the case.  The most common mistake deals with making sure you know
> when you're citing a footnote.  But, with practice, I have become
> quite quick at it.  I've heard West has a "copy with citation"
> feature, but I've never used it.
>
> I hope this is helpful.  This is written pre-coffee, so please feel
> free to contact me offlist if anything is confusing.
>
> Best of luck,
> Laura
>
> On 12/7/16, Aimee Harwood via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> At the top of the case you'll find the list of reporters. Note the number
>> of
>> stars preceding your preferred reporter. That will indicate the page
>> number
>> for that particular reporter. Hope that helps.
>>
>> Aimee
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Dec 6, 2016, at 11:30 PM, krista erickson via BlindLaw
>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Everyone,
>>> I've been using WestLaw Next to find and read cases for a class
>>> research project. We are limited to the cases we can cite in the
>>> project and have to pinpoint citations. Do any of you have suggestions
>>> for easily determining the correct page numbers that text from a case
>>> would appear on if reading cases in actual hard-bound books? The
>>> numbers preceeded by * in WestLaw Next don't appear to directly
>>> correspond to actual page numbers. Thanks.
>>> Krista
>>>
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