[blindlaw] Core Grammar for Lawyers

Tai Tomasi TTomasi at driowa.org
Thu Feb 4 14:26:05 UTC 2016


In the acknowledgements section of the website, the author thanked someone for putting this into HTML 5 format. I was under the impression that HTML 5 is fairly accessible, so I was surprised it is not working properly. Perhaps I am mistaken about HTML 5. I too have had great luck with Firefox in situations where Internet Explorer let me down.

Tai Tomasi, J.D.
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From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Stewart, Christopher K via blindlaw
Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2016 8:20 AM
To: Cody J. Davis <cjdavis9193 at gmail.com>
Cc: Stewart, Christopher K <chris.stewart at uky.edu>; Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Core Grammar for Lawyers

This actually makes me think that it may work with Firefox. It's not a scientific study, but my experience has been that many websites which work for Apple users, but don't work for Internet Explorer users, frequently work with Firefox. I know the person asking the question did so in regards to Internet Explorer, but Firefox is free, easy to use with JAWS, and may offer a solution here.

Best,
Chris


On 2/4/16, Cody J. Davis <cjdavis9193 at gmail.com> wrote:
> I used the core grammar for lawyers pretest and subsequent modules and 
> quizzes in my 1L year last year. I found all of it to be accessible 
> using a Mac with Safari and the built-in screen reader voiceover. 
> Though, I do think I had some issues navigating between modules and 
> saying what modules I had already completed. Also, I would make sure 
> to adjust your screen reader to pronounce all punctuation, as this 
> caused me a few problems in the first few modules.
>
> CJD
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Feb 4, 2016, at 8:37 AM, Stewart, Christopher K via blindlaw 
>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> I had this program my 1L year. My memory is that the pre-test is 
>> accessible, but none of the actual lessons are. Fortunately, I scored 
>> high enough on the pretest that my legal writing instructor waived 
>> the requirement. But, she also dropped a note to the creator at the 
>> time encouraging the implementation of accessibility features. I'm 
>> disappointed to hear her requests were ignored.
>>
>> My best advice is to try to work out an alternative for each of the 
>> lessons with your instructor. In the meantime, you could also sign 
>> this petition and distribute it to your friends demanding that 
>> President Obama order the DOJ to release the regulations which would 
>> apply the ADA to the internet.
>> https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/direct-us-department-justic
>> e-promptly-release-ada-internet-regulations
>>
>>
>> Best,
>> Chris
>>
>>
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>>>   1. Re: Completely accessible multifunction printer pricing.
>>>      (Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.)
>>>   2. Accessing the Website Core Grammar for Lawyers (krista erickson)
>>>   3. Re: Accessing the Website Core Grammar for Lawyers (Tai Tomasi)
>>>   4. Re: Accessing the Website Core Grammar for Lawyers (Aimee Harwood)
>>>   5. Re: Completely accessible multifunction printer pricing.
>>>      (Luis Mendez)
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>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2016 08:48:09 -0700
>>> From: "Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc."
>>>    <ukekearuaro at valtdnet.com>
>>> To: "Blind Law Mailing List" <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Completely accessible multifunction printer
>>>    pricing.
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>>> Wow, Tai, you beat me to it!  Whilst I may like this printer, the 
>>> price is out of the ballpark presently.  I hope a cheaper module 
>>> with the accessibility hooks will be in the works soonest.
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
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>>> Message: 2
>>> Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2016 10:02:13 -0600
>>> From: krista erickson <kaerickson at stu.clcillinois.edu>
>>> To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
>>> Subject: [blindlaw] Accessing the Website Core Grammar for Lawyers
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>>> Hello Blind Law Folks,
>>> I'm new to the list and have just started coursework to earn my 
>>> paralegal certificate. For my introductory paralegal studies class, 
>>> we are required to complete the tests, lessons and exercises on a 
>>> website called Core Grammar for Lawyers.
>>> www.coregrammar.com.
>>> I am encountering some access issues with the exercises and am 
>>> curious if any of you have used this website (especially with IE 11 
>>> and JAWS 17)? If you have, could you please let me know how you 
>>> completed the lesson exercises using screen reading software? Thanks.
>>> Krista
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> Message: 3
>>> Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2016 16:13:49 +0000
>>> From: Tai Tomasi <TTomasi at driowa.org>
>>> To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Accessing the Website Core Grammar for 
>>> Lawyers
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>>> l>
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>>>
>>> I haven't used this software, but I took a quick look at the 
>>> website. I would contact Firestream Media and Claudia Fulshaw Design 
>>> and encourage them to make this software WCAG 2.0 compliant. WCAG 
>>> stands for Web Content Accessibility Guidelines. Google it for more 
>>> information.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Tai Tomasi, J.D.
>>> Staff Attorney
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300
>>> Des Moines, Iowa 50309
>>> Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502
>>> FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711
>>> E-mail: tomasi at driowa.org
>>> www.driowa.org
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>>> Cc: krista erickson <kaerickson at stu.clcillinois.edu>
>>> Subject: [blindlaw] Accessing the Website Core Grammar for Lawyers
>>>
>>> Hello Blind Law Folks,
>>> I'm new to the list and have just started coursework to earn my 
>>> paralegal certificate. For my introductory paralegal studies class, 
>>> we are required to complete the tests, lessons and exercises on a 
>>> website called Core Grammar for Lawyers.
>>> www.coregrammar.com.
>>> I am encountering some access issues with the exercises and am 
>>> curious if any of you have used this website (especially with IE 11 
>>> and JAWS 17)?
>>> If
>>> you have, could you please let me know how you completed the lesson 
>>> exercises using screen reading software? Thanks.
>>> Krista
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>>> Message: 4
>>> Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2016 11:33:27 -0500
>>> From: Aimee Harwood <awildheir at gmail.com>
>>> To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Accessing the Website Core Grammar for 
>>> Lawyers
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>>> For an idea in the interim, if you have access to an iPad, I had 
>>> better luck on that platform probably because it used the mobile 
>>> site.
>>>
>>> Aimee
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Feb 3, 2016, at 11:13 AM, Tai Tomasi via blindlaw 
>>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I haven't used this software, but I took a quick look at the 
>>>> website. I would contact Firestream Media and Claudia Fulshaw 
>>>> Design and encourage them to make this software WCAG 2.0 compliant. 
>>>> WCAG stands for Web Content Accessibility Guidelines. Google it for 
>>>> more information.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> Tai Tomasi, J.D.
>>>> Staff Attorney
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 400 East Court Ave., Ste. 300
>>>> Des Moines, Iowa 50309
>>>> Tel: 515-278-2502; Toll Free: 1-800-779-2502
>>>> FAX: 515-278-0539; Relay 711
>>>> E-mail: tomasi at driowa.org
>>>> www.driowa.org
>>>>
>>>> Our Mission:  To defend and promote the human and legal rights of 
>>>> Iowans with disabilities
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>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: blindlaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
>>>> krista erickson via blindlaw
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2016 10:02 AM
>>>> To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
>>>> Cc: krista erickson <kaerickson at stu.clcillinois.edu>
>>>> Subject: [blindlaw] Accessing the Website Core Grammar for Lawyers
>>>>
>>>> Hello Blind Law Folks,
>>>> I'm new to the list and have just started coursework to earn my 
>>>> paralegal certificate. For my introductory paralegal studies class, 
>>>> we are required to complete the tests, lessons and exercises on a 
>>>> website called Core Grammar for Lawyers.
>>>> www.coregrammar.com.
>>>> I am encountering some access issues with the exercises and am 
>>>> curious if any of you have used this website (especially with IE 11 
>>>> and JAWS 17)?
>>>> If
>>>> you have, could you please let me know how you completed the lesson 
>>>> exercises using screen reading software? Thanks.
>>>> Krista
>>>>
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>>> Message: 5
>>> Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2016 11:49:16 -0500
>>> From: Luis Mendez <lmendez716 at gmail.com>
>>> To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Completely accessible multifunction printer
>>>    pricing.
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>>> Thanks for sharing this information.  Definitely out of my price 
>>> range for now.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>>> On Feb 2, 2016, at 5:35 PM, Tai Tomasi via blindlaw 
>>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> My representative gives me the following pricing information. I 
>>>> have been told that there may be a model with this functionality 
>>>> for somewhere around $1400. See the below message.
>>>>
>>>> Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A.
>>>> Staff Attorney
>>>> Disability Rights Iowa
>>>> Email: ttomasi at driowa.org<mailto:ttomasi at driowa.org>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical 
>>>> errors.
>>>>
>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>>
>>>> From: Andy Stevens
>>>> <astevens at kochbrothers.com<mailto:astevens at kochbrothers.com>>
>>>> Date: February 1, 2016 at 2:19:38 PM CST
>>>> To: 'Tai Tomasi' <TTomasi at driowa.org<mailto:TTomasi at driowa.org>>
>>>> Subject: Koch Brothers - Samsung Pricing
>>>>
>>>> Tai,
>>>>
>>>> I gave you a price on your model that starts the line and is 25 
>>>> pages per minute and then a price on the 60 pages per minute 
>>>> machine to give you a range of price on this line.
>>>>
>>>> The 25 page per minute machine with no accessories just a stand 
>>>> would be around $79.00 a month on a lease.  The purchase price 
>>>> would be around
>>>> $4,020.00 on that model.
>>>>
>>>> The 60 page per minute machine with no accessories just a stand 
>>>> would be around 190.50 a month on a lease.  The purchase price  
>>>> would be around
>>>> $10,265.00 on that model.
>>>>
>>>> Like I said in previous emails these prices are subject to change 
>>>> depending on current vendor contracts and also with adding accessories.
>>>> If you have any questions please let me know.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
>>>> Andy Stevens
>>>> Territory Account Manager Equipment Division Koch Brothers
>>>> Office: 515-244-4900
>>>> Cell: 515-451-4104
>>>>
>>>> astevens at kochbrothers.com<mailto:astevens at kochbrothers.com>
>>>> www.kochbrothers.com<http://www.kochbrothers.com/>
>>>>
>>>> [image002]
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>> Staff Editor, Kentucky Law Journal Co-President, American 
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