[blindlaw] Seeking guidance

Luis Mendez lmendez716 at gmail.com
Wed Dec 26 22:15:32 UTC 2018


Good afternoon Maura:

Hope all continues well with you and your growing family.   Let me thank you
for sparking such an interesting and lively discussion.  I also hope that
you have had the time to read some of the threads   discussing issues
related to the day-to-day practice of law which  have been posted to the
list.  Last summer a small group held a conference call to address workplace
accommodations.  I believe  that the notes from that call have also been
posted to the list.  You may find the practice threads and other information
on the list helpful in formulating your decision.  

To be sure, barriers to gaining admission to law school, and the job market
upon graduation do exist.  It is also true that  the study and practice of
law is challenging and demands a commitment of time and energy that may at
times  seem all-encompassing.  Nonetheless, as evidenced by many on this
list,  though not always easily, these barriers  can be overcome.  As others
have more eloquently stated,   look within and ask yourself what it is that
you are seeking  to accomplish and how  a legal education, and perhaps legal
practice, will aid you in doing so.   Keep in mind  that a legal education
can provide useful skills and a network that may be helpful even if you
decide not to practice law. 

Luis

 
 -----Original Message-----
From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Maura Kutnyak via
BlindLaw
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2018 3:11 PM
To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Maura Kutnyak <maurakutnyak at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Seeking guidance

Of course, the arguments which tell me what I want to hear sound pretty
nice.

Also, I did consider phD. I decided that a JD was more appealing for various
reasons including the limitations of the academic world. As James noted.

Again my thanks for engaging. So many interesting points.

Sincerely,

Maura Kutnyak
716-563-9882

> On Dec 26, 2018, at 1:26 PM, James T. Fetter via BlindLaw
<blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> A few points.
> 
> 1. A comparison between the legal and academic job markets is not a non
sequitur for someone thinking about transitioning from grad school to law
school--or, as in my case, someone with an advanced grad degree looking at a
limitless horizon of adjunct teaching opportunities with no benefits and
Walmart wages.
> 
> 2. Comparative job markets across states: I'm not in Ohio. I had to cross
state lines to find the position where I am now. This was because of
employment discrimination, not the legal job market in Ohio. It is hard to
find firms that do not discriminate, but they're out there.
> 
> 3. Cover letters etc.: the key is finding the right people to help with
these and make calls for you. I don't like the saying that "it's not what
you know, it's who you know." But there's a lot of truth to it.
> 
> 4. Re: accurate information: fully agreed on that point. Law schools that
inflated their placement numbers or otherwise misrepresented their ability
to help students find jobs should pay harsh penalties, up to and including
the revocation of accreditation and ineligibility for federal funds. But as
with anything, the best bet is to perform one's own research and assess
risks based on one's own goals, means, and abilities.
> 
> 
>> On 12/26/2018 10:59 AM, Kelby Carlson via BlindLaw wrote:
>> On number 5, that's why I made the caveat about being unsure on that 
>> point--I'm fully willing to admit that I'm wrong about that.
>> 
>> I still think you're painting an overly rosy picture of the 
>> possibilities, but I'm not going to rehash the points I made in 
>> another 2,000 word email. But comparing the legal job market to the 
>> academic job market is a non sequitur; the fact that another job 
>> market is terrible doesn't make the decision to go to law school any 
>> more rational.
>> 
>> Again, perhaps I am not as good at writing cover letters as you; 
>> perhaps Ohio's job market is better than Pennsylvania's; there are 
>> certainly other factors I could mention. But, as I said, my 
>> experience is certainly not unique. Essentially, you acknowledge all 
>> the points I made above, you just believe that they can either be 
>> mitigated or aren't that important. But I was told none of these 
>> things before I went to law school, so it's important to me that 
>> people have accurate information before making that sort of decision.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 12/26/18, James T. Fetter via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> I think this question has been framed the wrong way. The real 
>>> question is, or should be, do you want to become a lawyer? If so, 
>>> then law school is the only means to that end, , for better or worse.
>>> 
>>> A few points:
>>> 
>>> 1. Law school is expensive; no doubt about that. But there are ways 
>>> to mitigate that expense: scholarships, loan repayment assistance 
>>> programs for people with public interest jobs, etc. I went into the
application
>>> process   knowing that I did not want to pay a dime in tuition.  I got
>>> an LSAT score that was good enough but nothing to write home about 
>>> and landed a full tuition scholarship to Ohio State--a bit below my 
>>> desired ranking cutoff but good for me for a variety of other 
>>> reasons. So I went and have no regrets, albeit a bit less hair than I
did before starting.
>>> 
>>> 2. The LSAT is hard. Sure it is, but it is more than possible to do 
>>> well with self-study using prep materials. The only problem is the 
>>> games section, for which there are no accessible study aids--at 
>>> least not to my knowledge.
>>> 
>>> 3. Law school is a huge time suck. Sure it is, as is grad school, as 
>>> is just about every other intense form of career preparation.
>>> 
>>> 4. The legal job market is terrible. It's not great, but it is a ton 
>>> better than the academic job market. Take my word for it.
>>> 
>>> 5. Only lower-tier schools accept the GRE. Well, no, since Harvard 
>>> now accepts the GRE.
>>> 
>>> 6. There's no point in going to law school unless you are in the T20.
>>> Again no, because plenty of law grads outside the T20, and even  
>>> outside of tier 1 schools, get jobs. The real problem is, and 
>>> continues to be, employment discrimination. I finished in the top 
>>> 10% of my class at Ohio State, was on law review, and checked all 
>>> the other boxes that big firms like. Guess how many big firms in Ohio
wanted me? That would be zero.
>>> But I landed a job at a great firm, and although I don't like 
>>> talking salary, let's say it's higher than $35k.
>>> 
>>> 7. Law school is a scam. Again, not really, at least not unless 
>>> you're looking at the huge diploma mills with terrible job placement
numbers.
>>> Whatever else you do, look at your desired school's job placement 
>>> numbers, NALP tracks these. If they're too low for you, then write  
>>> that school off and move on.
>>> 
>>>> On 12/25/2018 5:35 PM, Kelby Carlson via BlindLaw wrote:
>>>> I am going to be the contrarian here and say that, absent some very 
>>>> specific circumstances, you probably should not go to law school. I 
>>>> will explain why at some length.
>>>> 
>>>> First, law school is extremely expensive. We are talking at least
>>>> $40,000 per year, and considerably more than that if you want to 
>>>> attend a good school (which you do, as I'll get to in a moment.) 
>>>> There are scholarships, of course, but they are competitive and 
>>>> there aren't that many. If you are planning on being an evening 
>>>> student, you can add another year of tuition to your costs. You may 
>>>> be able to get a state agency to pay for some of the education. I 
>>>> am not sure how your vocational rehabilitation handles career 
>>>> transitions like the one you envision. It is still likely, however, 
>>>> that you will be atking on a considerable amount of debt. This debt 
>>>> is probably going to be very difficult to pay off unless you get an
extremely high-paying job.
>>>> 
>>>> Let's talk about law school a little more specifically. You were 
>>>> asking whether or not you should take the GRE or the LSAT. I am not 
>>>> familiar with the law schools that accept GRE schools, but I 
>>>> suspect they are in the minority. THe schools that will give you 
>>>> the best chance at a good job will almost certainly want an LSAT 
>>>> score, and your chances of getting a scholarship are considerably 
>>>> higher with one. The LSAT is a demanding test. Believe me when I 
>>>> say that self-study is probably not a good idea, and considerable 
>>>> study is required. (I did not take a course and am positive my 
>>>> score suffered for it.) As was stated above, the LSAC is miserly 
>>>> with accommodations even after the 2015 consent decree requiring 
>>>> them to grant more and better accommodations to those with 
>>>> disabilities. (I can say this with some confidence as I just took 
>>>> the MPRE, which is administered by the
>>>> LSAC.) So be prepared to pay a decent amount for a prep course, to 
>>>> study a lot (and to learn nothing of relevance), and to spend 
>>>> several months trying to get accommodations.
>>>> 
>>>> If you get a high LSAT score, you have a better chance of getting a 
>>>> spot at a good law school. If you cannot get into a top 20 law 
>>>> school, you shouldn't even bother going. (I went to the Columbus 
>>>> School of Law, which is underrated but still nowhere near the top.) 
>>>> The top 20 schools are the only ones that give a really, really 
>>>> strong chance of knabbing a high-paying job or a prestigious 
>>>> clerkship right after law school. You will want one of those given 
>>>> the debts you will probably accrue during your studies.
>>>> 
>>>> If you go to law school, you need to realize a number of things. 
>>>> First of all, you will be getting a three year education that 
>>>> should probably be two or even one year. You will essentially 
>>>> repeat your entire first year over again while studying for the bar 
>>>> exam. Second, all law school exams and some law school papers are
graded on a curve.
>>>> This means that not only will you need to do very well objectively, 
>>>> you will need to do better than all of your classmates consistently 
>>>> over 6 semesters to maintain a high GPA. (If you are thinking about 
>>>> trying for a 4.0, know that my school's head registrar said that he 
>>>> has seen only one student ever receive a perfect GPA.) If you are 
>>>> not in the top 10 percent of your class, finding a high-paying job 
>>>> that will give you good experience will be extremely difficult 
>>>> unless you are fabulous at networking.
>>>> 
>>>> Keep in mind also that law school takes up all your time. if you 
>>>> are an evening student with a full-time job, you will have very 
>>>> limited time to spend with your family over the next four years if 
>>>> you want to maintain an extremely high GPA. The material you will 
>>>> be studying is extremely dry, but you will need to know all of it 
>>>> cold by exams. Your exams will probably all be closed-book; if they 
>>>> are open-book, however, they might actually be harder--professors 
>>>> will often up the difficulty of their exams if they allow you to 
>>>> use the book or the outline.
>>>> 
>>>> If you want to do law review or journal as an evening student--this 
>>>> is possible, I know several people who did--you will be devoting 
>>>> even more time to largely thankless, tedious work for which you 
>>>> will never be acknowledged. (If spending hours correcting minor 
>>>> grammatical errors in citations and trying to handle MS Word's 
>>>> abhorrent footnote interface appeals to you, than journal is 
>>>> definitely for you.)
>>>> 
>>>> So, all in all, law school itself is a tiring, unpleasant 
>>>> experience that will waste a lot of your time. I am speaking as 
>>>> someone who really liked his law school and has some very fond memories
of it.
>>>> 
>>>> Let's move on to the question of what else you will be doing in law 
>>>> school. If you do not get internships after your first year during 
>>>> the summer and probably every semester thereafter, you are dooming 
>>>> your potential in the job market. Much like scholarships, 
>>>> internships are extremely competitive but absolutely necessary if 
>>>> you are going to get the most out of your legal education. You will 
>>>> need to find an internship that will actually give you meaningful 
>>>> work, which is harder than it sounds. You will also probably want 
>>>> to find one that pays, which is extremely difficult. The best kind 
>>>> of internship is a summer associate position between your second 
>>>> and third years of school, but this is a full-time position that 
>>>> will be harder to arrange if you are an evening students. Once 
>>>> again, if you aren't extremely highly ranked in your class your chances
are low.
>>>> 
>>>> Let's say that you don't manage to grab a lot of paying 
>>>> internships, but you do get several government internships and 
>>>> maintain decent grades throughout law school (as I did). In your 
>>>> third year you will then begin applying for jobs and judicial 
>>>> clerkships. You will probably send out hundreds of applications and 
>>>> get responses from almost no one. If you want to clerk with a 
>>>> federal judge, you will have already begun applying your second 
>>>> year of law school because most federal judges are looking two 
>>>> years out. Much like prestigious firm jobs, federal clerkships are 
>>>> highly coveted because of their resume-building potential and you will
be extremely lucky to get one.
>>>> Even state clerkships will be challenging to obtain; hundreds of 
>>>> law students will be applying for each one. If you are lucky you 
>>>> will perhaps get around ten interviews. If you are extremely lucky 
>>>> you will get offered a job by more than one employer. However, 
>>>> unless you have managed to obtain a high-paying job at a large firm 
>>>> your dividends will not be large. I will give you my own example: 
>>>> by the time I had obtained employment out of law school it was as 
>>>> an attorney in a very rural county making $35,000 a year. And you 
>>>> know what? I was ecstatic when I received the offer, even though I 
>>>> would be making $5,000 less a year than my wife who works as a nanny.
>>>> 
>>>> So, you need to ask yourself several questions. First, can you get 
>>>> into a top 20 law school? Second, what kind of law will you practice?
>>>> What makes you particularly well-equipped to do so? If you cannot 
>>>> answer this question, then you will not be able to effectively plan 
>>>> your career during law school. Third, are you willing to sacrifice 
>>>> the time and financial rewards you could have received, and incur a 
>>>> potentially large amount of debt? Fourth, can you confidently say 
>>>> that you can maintain a consistently high GPA at a prestigious 
>>>> school and procure good internships (which may not pay) every 
>>>> semester of law school? If your answer to any of those questions is 
>>>> no, you should not go.
>>>> 
>>>> In my opinion, law school is worth it for almost no one and is 
>>>> basically a scam. The legal job market is terrible, but law schools 
>>>> will not make this clear to you because they are desperate to 
>>>> maintain their student body (many of them expanded pre-recession 
>>>> and are trying to recover.) If you do get a job, it will probably 
>>>> not pay well, and it it does you may very well end up hating it, 
>>>> because the legal profession is nothing like how it is portrayed on 
>>>> television. This video is essentially accurate:
>>>> 
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MM7K0LtkAvs
>>>> 
>>>> I hate to be the one to rain on everyone's parade. I'm sure there 
>>>> will be many people who disagree with me here, some perhaps 
>>>> justifiably (Laura Wook, a member of this list, clerks for Clarence 
>>>> Thomas.) But I feel that I needed to state these things because a 
>>>> lot of people will not.
>>>> 
>>>> Best,
>>>> 
>>>> Kelby Carlson
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 12/24/18, Nicole Poston via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>> All,This is a very interesting thread for me.  In some ways, I am 
>>>>> not like Maura....I do not have children of my own.  However, I 
>>>>> have in the last few years been encouraged by numerous individuals 
>>>>> in practically every facet of my life to consider the idea of 
>>>>> going to law school.  Like Maura, I would be considered a 
>>>>> non-traditional student and I do not have any interest in working 
>>>>> at some big NYC law firm...my expectations are more reasonable.
>>>>> I
>>>>> am currently in my 17th year of my current professional career and 
>>>>> have a masters degree I finished like 10 years ago. I'm required 
>>>>> in my current profession to get at least 6 credit hours every 5 
>>>>> years, which I have done online...but that has been the extent of 
>>>>> my recent experiences at the collegiate level.  I definitely have 
>>>>> an interest in pursuing law but the
>>>>> idea of leaping into a completely new realm is definitely daunting.
I
>>>>> guess one of my nagging questions is.... can some of law school be 
>>>>> done while still working?  Or does one need to plan on just doing 
>>>>> law school and putting work aside for those few years?  Any advice 
>>>>> on this or anything else you might find helpful is welcome and 
>>>>> appreciated, either on this thread or privately.
>>>>> Happy Holidays!Nicole
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Bill Spiry via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> To: 'Blind Law Mailing List' <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Cc: b.s.spiry <b.s.spiry at gmail.com>
>>>>> Sent: Mon, Dec 24, 2018 5:46 pm
>>>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Seeking guidance
>>>>> 
>>>>> Greetings Maura.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I can relate to your itch to go for your J.D. despite what some 
>>>>> may be telling you are bad odds for success. I took that plunge at 
>>>>> the age of 48 with an established 22 year professional career 
>>>>> already behind me, married, couple of teenage kids still at home, 
>>>>> and plenty of uncertainty. It was Scary as hell, and what my heart 
>>>>> was telling me to do. I paid a price for it and I do not regret my 
>>>>> decision.
>>>>> 
>>>>>   So that is my first advice, take the time to listen carefully to 
>>>>> your heart on this. You need to do it because it's  what is right 
>>>>> for you, not for anyone else. And if it is right for you and you 
>>>>> know it, ignore those who will try to convince you that you'd be 
>>>>> crazy to do it as someone without sight (including other blind 
>>>>> lawyers).
>>>>> 
>>>>> for the most part, I agree with the comments and advice from 
>>>>> others on this list regarding testing and strategy. So know this,  
>>>>> yeah, it's going to be damned hard and you're going to hit some 
>>>>> walls that will be tough to get around/over/through but you 
>>>>> probably know if you've got the metal for it in you. So go for it 
>>>>> if you know it's right for you and you believe you've got the 
>>>>> metal to find your way through some unique challenges. Follow your 
>>>>> heart.
>>>>> 
>>>>> My best wishes to you and yours for the holidays and the new year.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Bill
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Bill Spiry
>>>>> Attorney at Law
>>>>> Spiry Law LLC
>>>>> (541) 600-3301
>>>>> Bill at SpiryLaw.com
>>>>> Bill.spiry at gmail.com
>>>>> 
>>>>> "what's within you is stronger than what's in your way" - Erik 
>>>>> Weihenmayer
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>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Maura 
>>>>> Kutnyak via BlindLaw
>>>>> Sent: Monday, December 24, 2018 7:42 AM
>>>>> To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Cc: Maura Kutnyak <maurakutnyak at gmail.com>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Seeking guidance
>>>>> 
>>>>> One more thing, having sent this message from your iPhone, did you 
>>>>> use a separate keyboard or have you found the Braille input useful?
>>>>> On Dec 24, 2018, at 9:27 AM, James Fetter via BlindLaw 
>>>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> First of all, I agree with Paul. If this is your dream, go for 
>>>>>> it. Just
>>>>> know that more than a sane amount of work, work, and work, awaits you.
>>>>>> As to your questions:
>>>>>> 1. Having taken both the GRE and LSAT, I can state with a high 
>>>>>> level of
>>>>> confidence that the GRE does not present half the accommodations 
>>>>> barriers the LSAT does. The logic games section of the LSAT 
>>>>> requires either the drawing of diagrams or the use of Excel. There 
>>>>> are no accessible study aids that teach you how to use Excel to 
>>>>> ace this section. And at least when I took the LSAT, getting basic 
>>>>> accommodations from LSAC was like waging a war of attrition. So if 
>>>>> you don't mind being limited to the programs that accept the GRE, 
>>>>> then do that and save yourself some pain and suffering.
>>>>>> 2. Going to law school after grad school is an interesting
transition.
>>>>>> All
>>>>> of a sudden, you're in a classroom with people ten years 
>>>>> younger-people who are generally used to studying for 
>>>>> high-pressure exams and who seem to have an inexhaustible amount 
>>>>> of energy. Yet, you will have advantages: the ability to think in 
>>>>> different ways, the ability to write both well and more quickly, 
>>>>> etc. You will be fine, as long as you don't get sucked into the 
>>>>> grades/money dynamic (I.e. the idea that the only reason you're 
>>>>> there is to get top grades so that you can land a job at a NYC law 
>>>>> firm). Nothing wrong with those goals, but based on your message, 
>>>>> they don't seem to be your goals.
>>>>>> 3. Being blind in law school is like being blind anywhere else. 
>>>>>> You'll
>>>>> need the same auxiliary aids as you would need in grad school. The 
>>>>> only real difference I found is that, if you're on journal, it can 
>>>>> be interesting getting accommodations from 3L's (Third-year law 
>>>>> students) while you're a 2L staff editor. I had to provide a crash 
>>>>> course on the ADA to 3L's, who thought accommodations were a 
>>>>> courtesy they could approve or deny at will.
>>>>> But I got through it just fine and am now practicing.
>>>>>> 4. Re: going through law school as a parent, I can't help much 
>>>>>> there other
>>>>> than to advise finding other parents going through the same thing 
>>>>> as you are. Most of your fellow students will be in their early 
>>>>> 20's and still on Tinder. So find other older law students who 
>>>>> took a "non-traditional"
>>>>> path.
>>>>> Though my wife and I do not have kids, my best friends in law 
>>>>> school were other older students who took non-traditional paths. 
>>>>> In fact, these friendships, in addition to my wife, kept me sane 
>>>>> through what would have otherwise been a very frenetic three years.
>>>>>> I hope some of this is helpful, and I wish you nothing but the best!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Dec 24, 2018, at 8:45 AM, Maura Kutnyak via BlindLaw
>>>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> Thank you Dr. Harpur.  While maybe not practical, your words ring
true.
>>>>> No one can answer some of my deepest questions other than me, in 
>>>>> the moment.
>>>>> Again, thank you so kindly for taking the time to write.
>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Maura Kutnyak
>>>>>>> 716-563-9882
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Dec 24, 2018, at 8:10 AM, Paul Harpur via BlindLaw
>>>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>> You never know if you can live your dream until you wake up and 
>>>>>>>> take the
>>>>> plunge.  Go for it!
>>>>>>>> I am based in Australia but am also an International 
>>>>>>>> Distinguished
>>>>> Fellow at BBI at Syracuse University.  I will let others give more 
>>>>> practical advice, but my e-mail is here to encourage you.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Dr Paul Harpur
>>>>>>>> BBus (HRm), LLB (Hons) LLM, PhD, solicitor of the High Court of 
>>>>>>>> Australia (non-practicing) Fulbright Future 
>>>>>>>> Scholar/International
>>>>> Distinguished Fellow, Burton Blatt Institute, SU, New York.
>>>>>>>> Senior Lecturer
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> TC Beirne School of Law
>>>>>>>> The University of Queensland
>>>>>>>> Brisbane Qld 4072 Australia
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> T +61 7 3365 8864 M +61 417 635 609 E p.harpur at law.uq.edu.au 
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>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf 
>>>>>>>> Of Maura Kutnyak via BlindLaw
>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, 24 December 2018 11:05 PM
>>>>>>>> To: blindlaw at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>> Cc: Maura Kutnyak <maurakutnyak at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> Subject: [blindlaw] Seeking guidance
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hello blind law participants,
>>>>>>>>   I am writing with more than a little hesitation and an equal 
>>>>>>>> amount of
>>>>> interest.  If what follows would be better directed else where 
>>>>> please point the way.
>>>>>>>>   I am a blind graduate student in Buffalo NY.  Under the 
>>>>>>>> influence of a
>>>>> few converging forces, a slight interest in law school as a next 
>>>>> step has grown to a nagging and exciting unshakable desire.  More 
>>>>> than a few people who have offered consultation as I explore this 
>>>>> option have pointed me to the collective knowledge of this email 
>>>>> list.
>>>>>>>>   My questions range from broad ideas such as, How could I 
>>>>>>>> possibly make
>>>>> my way through law school blind and a mother of three?  To, what 
>>>>> kinds of supports will I need?  Most immediate is the question of 
>>>>> which entrance test should I take?  I recently learned that The 
>>>>> University at Buffalo law school started accepting the GRE in 
>>>>> addition to the LSAT.  I did not have to take the GRE for the MPA 
>>>>> program in which I am currently studying.  So, I am not sure which 
>>>>> test is more friendly to the blind.
>>>>>>>>   I could go on and on.I will end soon. One additional question 
>>>>>>>> is, are
>>>>> there any recent UB law graduates in this list?  hearing from 
>>>>> someone who has spent time in that program may be a very helpful
start.
>>>>>>>>   Thanks to anyone who took the time to read.  I have so many 
>>>>>>>> more
>>>>> questions but I do not want to clog anyones inbox Too much.  
>>>>> Again, if this line of inquiry would be best plumbed somewhere 
>>>>> else don't hesitate to redirect.
>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Maura Kutnyak-Smalley
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