[blindlaw] Update on Jaws and Track Changes

Tue Apr 23 12:01:52 UTC 2019

Appreciate the concern and agree with your approach to it. Feel free to let me know if I can be of any help other than private beta testing as Rosemarry will not give me another enrolment as I could not test earlier due to professional commitments :) 

Regards,
Amar Jain

Sent from my iPhone

> On 23-Apr-2019, at 5:22 PM, Laura Wolk <laura.wolk at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Yes, I'm aware of this also.  I will let them know, but this also may
> need to wait for a future update.  I am trying to balance getting as
> many things addressed as possible with not overwhelming the
> developers.  They are currently developing a beta test to address the
> issues raised in January.  The last I heard was that a beta was
> released last week that still does not adequately address the issues
> brought to their attention, so they are trying additional fixes.  I'll
> let you know once I've tested it.
> 
> Laura
> 
>> On 4/23/19, Amar Jain via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> I somehow missed this threat.
>> 
>> Excellent work, Laura. Just an addition, Jaws does not announce formatting
>> related changes in track, it just announces ‘revised property’. Request if
>> we can get this addressed as well.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Amar Jain
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 23-Apr-2019, at 3:15 PM, Gerard Sadlier via BlindLaw
>>> <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Dear Laura
>>> 
>>> Just a note to thank you and all those who have worked on this very
>>> much indeed. The tip you have shared for quick access keys seems
>>> useful, I will try it.
>>> 
>>> Kind regards
>>> 
>>> Ger for all your work on this
>>> 
>>>> On 4/12/19, Laura Wolk via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> Sorry for the cross-post, but in case some folks are following one
>>>> thread and not another:
>>>> 
>>>> VFO is planning on issuing a new release some time in the next month
>>>> to address as many of these concerns as possible.  I will be working
>>>> with them on their Beta test to make sure they are actually addressed.
>>>> Microsoft will also be working on things from their end, but they will
>>>> primarily be implementing them in the latest build, so I anticipate
>>>> that we will need to advocate for upgrades to the latest version of
>>>> office as accommodations in our job.
>>>> 
>>>> Here is the list of issues about which Vfo and Microsoft are aware.
>>>> Please let me know if anything that you are encountering is not on
>>>> this list.
>>>> 
>>>> 1. virtual viewer does not show more than approximately 150 revisions.
>>>> Also impacts the list tracked change feature.
>>>> 2. Jaws occasionally reads both the old and the revised text.
>>>> 3. Revisions of footnotes don’t show up in virtual viewer at all.
>>>> 4. Jaws becomes sluggish when editing footnotes, headers and footers,
>>>> comments.
>>>> 5. Reliably being able to select text in footnotes, headers and
>>>> footers, comment bubbles.
>>>> 6. Always showing dots 7-8 on the display in footnotes.
>>>> 7. Braille cursor routing keys do not work correctly when editing
>>>> footnotes.
>>>> 8. If footnotes are long, Braille display will stop advancing after a
>>>> certain point.
>>>> 9. Jaws will report a revision at the beginning of the line, rather
>>>> than announcing the revision exactly where the revised text occurs.
>>>> 10. call numbers of footnotes not being read in the footnote pane.
>>>> 11. When switching from show all mark-up to no-markup, hidden
>>>> properties are still read, requiring a manual refresh.
>>>> 12. General sluggishness/lagginess when navigating the ribbon.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks everyone!
>>>> 
>>>> Laura
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 4/11/19, Steve Jacobson via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>> Laura,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Perhaps you have already heard this elsewhere, but on a recent Podcast,
>>>>> Eric
>>>>> Damery made reference to some major changes to the process JAWS uses to
>>>>> track Word changes and revisions were being made, and I believe he said
>>>>> that
>>>>> they would likely be in the May release.  Perhaps this will also help.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The Quick Access Toolbar is very handy for tasks, I am glad it is
>>>>> helping
>>>>> in
>>>>> this situation.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Steve Jacobson
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: BlindLaw <blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Laura Wolk via
>>>>> BlindLaw
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2019 7:26 PM
>>>>> To: Blind Law Mailing List <blindlaw at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Cc: Laura Wolk <laura.wolk at gmail.com>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Update on Jaws and Track Changes
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Josh,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hit alt+f, then t to get to options.  Arrow down until you hear "quick
>>>>> access tool bar."  Then tab over until you hear "customize quick
>>>>> access tool bar list box, save as one of nine."  If you arrow down
>>>>> through that list box, you will hear what the defaults are.  I hope
>>>>> that helps.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Laura
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 4/11/19, Josh Loevy via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>> Thanks for the update Laura!
>>>>>> I have been looking for the default quick access commands, do you
>>>>>> happen
>>>>>> to know where I can find them?
>>>>>> 
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