[Blindmath] Statistics

Sat Mar 6 18:36:45 UTC 2010

Absolutely.  I will also check if the student can understand me.  I think it will be OK - at least we will all be hoping for a positive result.

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From: blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org [blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC) [REBECCA.PICKRELL at tasc.com]
Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 8:18 AM
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Subject: Re: [Blindmath] Statistics

Tony,
Just make sure your student and TA are okay with her reading. If she and
your student can have some practice reading sessions that might help.
I once had an exam from hell read to me by someone who's accent I had
never heard before, and whom I could not understand.

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On Behalf Of Lachenbruch, Peter
Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 11:13 AM
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Subject: Re: [Blindmath] Statistics

Rebecca -
Tony is what I go by...  However, I usually answer to Peter, unless it's
a phone call and them I suspect a home refinance, insurance, or give
money pitch.
I was thinking of having my TA do the reading - and that way I'll know
the math reading is OK.  The only problem is that she is from Chile, so
the accent may be an issue.
I'm ok with the reader filling in the scantron sheet.

Tony

Peter A. Lachenbruch
Department of Public Health
Oregon State University
Corvallis, OR 97330
Phone: 541-737-3832
FAX: 541-737-4001

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On Behalf Of Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC)
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 11:00 AM
To: Munawar Bijani; Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
Subject: Re: [Blindmath] Statistics

Peter/Tony,
Kudos to you for being so accomidating of your student.
My only suggestion on using a reader is to make sure the reader knows
how to read math.
Another option for you would be to prerecord yourself reading the exam
(which may minimize the hint giving) and have your student write down
his/her answers on a computer. This way, you'll know that the reader
didn't write down the incorrect answer on the scantron.

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On Behalf Of Munawar Bijani
Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 7:07 PM
To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
Subject: Re: [Blindmath] Statistics

Hi,
First I want to say thanks so much for being so willing to assist your
student in making the course accessible. As far as the Stats book is
concerned, you can try checking www.rfbd.org to see if they have the
book
recorded. If they do, the student may have a subscription to the site
and
can download it--it will be audio.

Next, about PDF: math books in PDF aren't a good idea since in math
there
are a lot of symbols, and layout really makes a difference. It will be
difficult to read with the student's screen reader :). The best things
to do
are either check www.rfbd.org for a recorded book, or hire a reader to
read
the book to the student. I think Brailling it would take too long. The
reader can just describe the diagrams (for instance, describe what a
normal
distribution curve looks like, where the areas are on the curve, etc.)

Also, when it comes time to use z-score and normal distribution tables,
these are available online and are easily accessed (I used to use them
when
I didn't have a book back in high school, luckily the college text has
been
recorded in my case though.) Hope this helps!
Munawar A. Bijani

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From: "Lachenbruch, Peter" <Peter.Lachenbruch at oregonstate.edu>
Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 12:13 PM
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Cc: "Childers, Maureen" <Maureen.Childers at oregonstate.edu>; "Turek,Joan
Lee"
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Subject: [Blindmath] Statistics

Dear all,

After many years of teaching, I have a blind student in my class.  I am
using a text by Utts and Heckard "Mind on Statistics" and want to know
if
there is a Braille edition.  Our disabilities access office is planning
to
convert the text to Braille, but obviously if there's such an edition
already available, it would be great to know about it.

More generally, the disabilities office mentioned that when they get a
pdf
file of a text, they often must reformat it so their translation
software
can work.  It struck me that some sort of a clearing house for
establishing
standards would be good - and then one conversion could serve for all.
I
have asked the American Statistical Association committee on
Disabilities
and Statistics to consider this.

I know that some books are read to tape or CD (my neighbor a few years
ago
did this for basic math books).  This would be another option.
Tony

Peter A. Lachenbruch
Department of Public Health
Oregon State University
Corvallis, OR 97330
Phone: 541-737-3832
FAX: 541-737-4001

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