[Blindmath] Blindmath Digest, Vol 85, Issue 5

Fri Aug 9 15:26:39 UTC 2013

Let us know what you think.

Anna E Givens

On Aug 8, 2013, at 9:45 PM, "Vincent Martin" <vmartin at mindspring.com> wrote:

>    I ordered the new Orion Talking scientific calculator today.  It is
> on back order, so I have no idea when it will get shipped.  I'm salivating
> to see how well it actually works.  If it does what I think it does, then I
> will have to get a second one just to run experiments with the next couple
> of semesters.
> 
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> Today's Topics:
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>   1. LaTeX (Justin Salisbury)
>   2. Accessible math in Wikipedia using MathPlayer (Neil Soiffer)
>   3. Re: Accessible math in Wikipedia using MathPlayer (Kevin Fjelsted)
>   4. Re: Accessible math in Wikipedia using MathPlayer (Neil Soiffer)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2013 12:47:47 +0000
> From: Justin Salisbury <PRESIDENT at alumni.ecu.edu>
> To: "nfb-science at nfbnet.org" <nfb-science at nfbnet.org>,
>    "blindmath at nfbnet.org"    <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [Blindmath] LaTeX
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> All:
> I want to learn how to write LaTeX in an editor that will be accessible with
> Jaws. I have little to no experience actually writing LaTeX, but it is
> something that I need in the short and long-term. Can you recommend any
> resources for learning to write LaTeX? Can you recommend anything that I may
> need for accessibility?
> Thank you in advance,
> Justin Salisbury
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> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2013 12:11:42 -0700
> From: Neil Soiffer <NeilS at dessci.com>
> To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
>    <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [Blindmath] Accessible math in Wikipedia using MathPlayer
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> A while back I said I was going to write a blog post on how to make math
> accessible in Wikipedia using MathPlayer.  I've finally written it:
> http://accessiblemath.dessci.com/2013/08/wikipedia-accessible-math-in-3-easy
> -steps.html
> 
> There's a lot of math in Wikipedia, so I think this will be really useful
> for some of you.
> 
> I've written some other posts on using some of MathPlayer 3's new
> accessibility features, so if you are using MathPlayer, you might want to
> look through the last few postings to see if there is something in which you
> are interested.
> 
> Neil Soiffer
> Senior Scientist
> Design Science, Inc.
> www.dessci.com
> ~ Makers of MathType, MathFlow, MathPlayer, MathDaisy, Equation Editor ~
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> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2013 14:26:14 -0500
> From: Kevin Fjelsted <kfjelsted at gmail.com>
> To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
>    <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] Accessible math in Wikipedia using MathPlayer
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> The problem is that if one is using a screen reader such as NVDA it doesn't
> seem that the integration provides for exploration of the equation i.e.,
> right-click?
> How does one resolve this issue?
> -Kevin
> 
> On Aug 6, 2013, at 2:11 PM, Neil Soiffer <NeilS at dessci.com> wrote:
> 
>> A while back I said I was going to write a blog post on how to make 
>> math accessible in Wikipedia using MathPlayer.  I've finally written it:
>> http://accessiblemath.dessci.com/2013/08/wikipedia-accessible-math-in-
>> 3-easy-steps.html
>> 
>> There's a lot of math in Wikipedia, so I think this will be really 
>> useful for some of you.
>> 
>> I've written some other posts on using some of MathPlayer 3's new 
>> accessibility features, so if you are using MathPlayer, you might want 
>> to look through the last few postings to see if there is something in 
>> which you are interested.
>> 
>> Neil Soiffer
>> Senior Scientist
>> Design Science, Inc.
>> www.dessci.com
>> ~ Makers of MathType, MathFlow, MathPlayer, MathDaisy, Equation Editor 
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> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2013 15:02:27 -0700
> From: Neil Soiffer <NeilS at dessci.com>
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> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] Accessible math in Wikipedia using MathPlayer
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> If you mean that you can't arbitrarily navigate a math expression, that's
> not implemented yet.  I do understand that is a problem and hope to have a
> solution in a few months.  You can however walk around the linear string of
> words used (in NVDA, the default key binding for that is numpad 4 and 6), so
> you can do some review.  It's not great, but better than nothing.  In any
> case, hearing the math is vastly better than hearing gibberish or nothing.
> 
> I just tried NVDA and have two warnings to give:
> 1.  When NVDA loads a page, it asks MathPlayer to translate every bit of
> math on the page before it will start reading the page.  I think it may do
> that 2 or 3 times, so a page load is REALLY, REALLY slow for pages with lots
> of math.  Go out and get a cup of coffee or get some exercise :-) I'll file
> a bug with the NVDA folks.
> 
> 2.  NVDA doesn't ask for the "smart" speech (speech geared towards the TTS
> voice).  So MathPlayer adds "." and "," to get some pausing.  By default,
> NVDA tries to speak some of these.  I recommend setting speech to not speak
> the punctuation (it's under voice settings).
> 
> Neil Soiffer
> Senior Scientist
> Design Science, Inc.
> www.dessci.com
> ~ Makers of MathType, MathFlow, MathPlayer, MathDaisy, Equation Editor ~
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 12:26 PM, Kevin Fjelsted <kfjelsted at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> The problem is that if one is using a screen reader such as NVDA it 
>> doesn't seem that the integration provides for exploration of the 
>> equation i.e., right-click?
>> How does one resolve this issue?
>> -Kevin
>> 
>> On Aug 6, 2013, at 2:11 PM, Neil Soiffer <NeilS at dessci.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> A while back I said I was going to write a blog post on how to make 
>>> math accessible in Wikipedia using MathPlayer.  I've finally written it:
>> http://accessiblemath.dessci.com/2013/08/wikipedia-accessible-math-in-
>> 3-easy-steps.html
>>> 
>>> There's a lot of math in Wikipedia, so I think this will be really 
>>> useful for some of you.
>>> 
>>> I've written some other posts on using some of MathPlayer 3's new 
>>> accessibility features, so if you are using MathPlayer, you might 
>>> want to look through the last few postings to see if there is 
>>> something in which you are interested.
>>> 
>>> Neil Soiffer
>>> Senior Scientist
>>> Design Science, Inc.
>>> www.dessci.com
>>> ~ Makers of MathType, MathFlow, MathPlayer, MathDaisy, Equation 
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