[Blindmath] Blindmath Digest, Vol 92, Issue 18

hpscheffer at aol.com hpscheffer at aol.com
Tue Apr 1 19:34:47 UTC 2014


Sandra, what equipment is he using to read it? It could be the format you are using, pdf's are picture files that are not usually accessible. Give us some more details so we can help you figure this out.
Heidi

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On Apr 1, 2014, at 2:15 PM, Sandra Dietle <sandradietle at LaDelta.edu> wrote:

> I have a blind student who is struggling in Math 099.  I gave him the pdf format of his text book but he says it won't read the mathematical power symbols.  How can I help him?  Is there a braille textbook for College Algebra, 11th edition by Lial, Margaret; Hornsby, John; Schneider, David? Or someplace I can have it brailled?  Thanks.
> 
> 
> Sandy Dietle, LPC
> Director of Counseling and Disability Services
> 7500 Millhaven Road
> Monroe, Louisiana  71203
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>   1. Re: Blindmath Digest, Vol 92, Issue 12 (Wilson_KC)
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> Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2014 15:19:22 +0000
> From: Wilson_KC <Wilson_KC at asdk12.org>
> To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
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> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] Blindmath Digest, Vol 92, Issue 12
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> I too like this handy dandy tool.  I've added, with velcro, a long magnetic strip (longer than the math window board) to use for displaying numbers in order so that the median can be found.  
> 
> ________________________________________
> From: Blindmath [blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of Marianne Hewitt Robbins [MarianneRobbins2011 at comcast.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 8:02 PM
> To: blindmath at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] Blindmath Digest, Vol 92, Issue 12
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> I am a blind person and instructor.
> 
> I have found  Math window tactile tools by Wolf Products to be an effective, low-tech, reasonably priced hands-on learning/teaching tool.
> 
> 
> There is a basic math kit with add-on for algebra. There is a separate geometry kit which includes a means to understand and manipulate graphs.
> 
> The kits are created in several versions- for blind braille users as well as for those who can utilize large print.
> 
> The braille version is also marked with print for assistants who may not be braille readers.
> 
> here's a link:
> http://www.mathwindow.com
> 
> Once on the page, you can click to read details about the various kits.
> 
> Paula Wolf is the owner - She is incredibly pleasant and helpful. Here is her contact info:
> Wolf Products, Inc. 106 Purvis Rd. Butler, PA 16001
> Phone: (724) 285-5428 Fax: (413) 208-9042
> Email: wolfproducts at mathwindow.com
> 
> Another consideration would be whether your student has been introduced to nemeth braille code.  This would be an invaluable tool for any blind student who is able to learn braille.  Humanware's Apex has a thorough Nemeth Braille tutorial course as well as new Nemeth features which make it possible for the student to do work on the device in Braille, then convert and submit the work to a sighted instructor. I have used this in my own math studies and am really pleased.
> 
> Best of luck to you and your student.
> 
> Marianne Hewitt Robbins
> MariannI ameRobbins2011 at comcast.net
> "Love is an Action Word."
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> On Mar 12, 2014, at 5:00 AM, blindmath-request at nfbnet.org wrote:
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>>  1. help (Sandra Dietle)
>>  2. Re: help (John Gardner)
>>  3. Re: help (Bhavya shah)
>>  4. Re: help (Bhavya shah)
>>  5. Re: help (hpscheffer at aol.com)
>>  6. Re: help (John Gardner)
>>  7. Re: help (Lewicki, Maureen)
>>  8. Re: help (Pranav Lal)
>>  9. Re: help (hpscheffer at aol.com)
>> 10. Re: help (sabra1023)
>> 11. Re: help (sabra1023)
>> 12. Re: help (Arielle Silverman)
>> 13. Re: help (Lewicki, Maureen)
>> 14. Re: help (Susan Mooney)
>> 15. Re: help (Susan Mooney)
>> 16. Re: help (M Lakhani)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2014 14:00:32 +0000
>> From: Sandra Dietle <sandradietle at LaDelta.edu>
>> To: "blindmath at nfbnet.org" <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: [Blindmath] help
>> Message-ID:
>>      <F90B01D76B1FBF44A0EC8114AEA283D707417B4F at EXCHANGE.LaDelta.edu>
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>> 
>> Hello,
>> This is my first time to post to this list-serv as I only recently knew it existed.  I am new to the field of disabilities having been in this position a little over a year.  Here is my problem:
>> 
>> I have a blind student taking Math 099.  He comes to my office and I read the test to him.  Today the instructor brought me a test and it's on graphs, and axes, and slopes of lines, x & y intercepts, etc...  I have no idea how to read this test to this student!!   Is this even a reasonable test for this student?  Any ideas on how I can help him?
>> 
>> I announced in class for a student worker to help him but nobody volunteered.
>> 
>> We have in our library tutors who help him with assignments but they don't have the time to read a test to him as they are helping other students.
>> 
>> We have JAWS, Openbooks, and a Pearl reading solution on a computer in our library.  I was wondering if this is capable of reading tests to him?
>> 
>> Thanks for any assistance.
>> 
>> Sandy
>> 
>> 
>> Attention Students-
>> For up-to-date enrollment and financial aid information, please monitor your LoLA account<https://my.lctcs.edu/cp/home/displaylogin> regularly.
>> 
>> Sandy Dietle, LPC
>> Director of Counseling and Disability Services
>> 7500 Millhaven Road
>> Monroe, Louisiana  71203
>> 318-345-9152
>> Fax 318-345-9087
>> Staying Connected . . . . in 2013
>> 
>> CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE:  This electronic mail message and any attachments may contain information that is, or may be, LEGALLY PRIVILEGED, CONFIDENTIAL, PROPRIETARY IN NATURE, OR OTHERWISE PROTECTED BY LAW FROM DISCLOSURE, and is intended only for the use of the Addressee(s) named herein.  If you are not the intended recipient, an addressee, or the person responsible for delivering this to an addressee, you are hereby notified that reading, disclosing, using, copying, or distributing any part of this message or any of its attachments is strictly prohibited.  If you have received this electronic mail message in error, please contact sender immediately and take steps necessary to delete the message and all its attachments completely from your computer system
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2014 08:24:16 -0700
>> From: "John Gardner" <gardnerj at onid.orst.edu>
>> To: "'Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics'"
>>      <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] help
>> Message-ID: <008001cf3d3d$f7b000c0$e7100240$@orst.edu>
>> Content-Type: text/plain;     charset="us-ascii"
>> 
>> Access to graphs will be poor unless the student has some kind of tactile
>> representation.  I believe that everybody on this list will agree with that
>> statement.  However not every blind person can understand tactile graphics,
>> so before doing anything else, this is a topic that you need to discuss with
>> him.  If he is among the very small number of blind people who are
>> comfortable with tactile graphics, then you need to purchase some equipment
>> to make them, and there are many possibilities.  If he is not comfortable
>> with reading tactile, then my recommendation is to make audio tactile
>> graphics copeies for him, because most people can read tactile copy if there
>> is good audio to accompany it.  Full disclosure: my company, ViewPlus, is
>> the pioneer in this technology, so if you do this, you'll be buying from
>> ViewPlus.
>> 
>> So please, before this discussion goes on into myriad detail, you need to
>> have the conversation with your student.  And for my own benefit, I'd like
>> to know why this topic has not already come up.  Learning about graphs only
>> when they appear on a test is kind of late.
>> 
>> John Gardner
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Blindmath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sandra
>> Dietle
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 7:01 AM
>> To: blindmath at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: [Blindmath] help
>> 
>> Hello,
>> This is my first time to post to this list-serv as I only recently knew it
>> existed.  I am new to the field of disabilities having been in this position
>> a little over a year.  Here is my problem:
>> 
>> I have a blind student taking Math 099.  He comes to my office and I read
>> the test to him.  Today the instructor brought me a test and it's on graphs,
>> and axes, and slopes of lines, x & y intercepts, etc...  I have no idea how
>> to read this test to this student!!   Is this even a reasonable test for
>> this student?  Any ideas on how I can help him?
>> 
>> I announced in class for a student worker to help him but nobody
>> volunteered.
>> 
>> We have in our library tutors who help him with assignments but they don't
>> have the time to read a test to him as they are helping other students.
>> 
>> We have JAWS, Openbooks, and a Pearl reading solution on a computer in our
>> library.  I was wondering if this is capable of reading tests to him?
>> 
>> Thanks for any assistance.
>> 
>> Sandy
>> 
>> 
>> Attention Students-
>> For up-to-date enrollment and financial aid information, please monitor your
>> LoLA account<https://my.lctcs.edu/cp/home/displaylogin> regularly.
>> 
>> Sandy Dietle, LPC
>> Director of Counseling and Disability Services
>> 7500 Millhaven Road
>> Monroe, Louisiana  71203
>> 318-345-9152
>> Fax 318-345-9087
>> Staying Connected . . . . in 2013
>> 
>> CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE:  This electronic mail message and any attachments
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>> Message: 3
>> Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2014 21:01:18 +0530
>> From: Bhavya shah <bhavya.shah125 at gmail.com>
>> To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
>>      <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Blindmath] help
>> Message-ID:
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>> I am quite sure that the student must be having swell line
>> paper/sheets and a blind's geometry box. Ask him to bring both of
>> these and draw with preferably a pen and apply pressure on the swell
>> line paper so that the diagram becomes embossed/tactile. He will then
>> read it and after analysis and solving will be able to verbally or by
>> diagram give you the answer.
>> Please try to give your student alternative questions for extremely
>> graphical or visual questions.
>> 
>> On 3/11/14, Sandra Dietle <sandradietle at ladelta.edu> wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>> This is my first time to post to this list-serv as I only recently knew it
>>> existed.  I am new to the field of disabilities having been in this position
>>> a little over a year.  Here is my problem:
>>> 
>>> I have a blind student taking Math 099.  He comes to my office and I read
>>> the test to him.  Today the instructor brought me a test and it's on graphs,
>>> and axes, and slopes of lines, x & y intercepts, etc...  I have no idea how
>>> to read this test to this student!!   Is this even a reasonable test for
>>> this student?  Any ideas on how I can help him?
>>> 
>>> I announced in class for a student worker to help him but nobody
>>> volunteered.
>>> 
>>> We have in our library tutors who help him with assignments but they don't
>>> have the time to read a test to him as they are helping other students.
>>> 
>>> We have JAWS, Openbooks, and a Pearl reading solution on a computer in our
>>> library.  I was wondering if this is capable of reading tests to him?
>>> 
>>> Thanks for any assistance.
>>> 
>>> Sandy
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Attention Students-
>>> For up-to-date enrollment and financial aid information, please monitor your
>>> LoLA account<https://my.lctcs.edu/cp/home/displaylogin> regularly.
>>> 
>>> Sandy Dietle, LPC
>>> Director of Counseling and Disability Services
>>> 7500 Millhaven Road
>>> Monroe, Louisiana  71203
>>> 318-345-9152
>>> Fax 318-345-9087
>>> Staying Connected . . . . in 2013
>>> 
>>> CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE:  This electronic mail message and any attachments
>>> may contain information that is, or may be, LEGALLY PRIVILEGED,
>>> CONFIDENTIAL, PROPRIETARY IN NATURE, OR OTHERWISE PROTECTED BY LAW FROM
>>> DISCLOSURE, and is intended only for the use of the Addressee(s) named
>>> herein.  If you are not the intended recipient, an addressee, or the person
>>> responsible for delivering this to an addressee, you are hereby notified
>>> that reading, disclosing, using, copying, or distributing any part of this
>>> message or any of its attachments is strictly prohibited.  If you have
>>> received this electronic mail message in error, please contact sender
>>> immediately and take steps necessary to delete the message and all its
>>> attachments completely from your computer system
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