[Blindmath] Blindmath Digest, Vol 114, Issue 7

Mary Woodyard marywoodyard at comcast.net
Wed Jan 27 14:10:22 UTC 2016


Tzipora,

Sorry I used the wrong name in my original post about College Board.  I am
agreeing with the other posters that students with Disabilities need to
register earlier than their nondisabled peers.  There is a schedule posted
on the College Board Website.  The reason they have to register earlier is
obviously so that College Board can send the appropriate testing materials
to their testing site.  I noticed on their website that they have posted a
new section in the Students with Disabilities announcing some new testing
accommodations and formats for students who use screen readers and human
readers.  It is mostly updated technology with a MP3 audio file with a
reader delivered on a flashdrive instead of the cassettes they used to use.
There is also a digital version they are calling Assistive Technology
compatible which is designed to work with Screen Readers.  In addition, they
are giving more breaks for students who used extended time (which anyone who
used a human or screen reader would do).  All in all, it is a huge
improvement for Students with Disabilties and I wish it had been available
last year when my son was testing.  These formats will roll out for SAT
testing right now - I am not sure about the AP Subject Tests - you can ask
your testing coordinator to find out or call the Student with Disabilities
area.  The link for more information is
https://www.collegeboard.org/students-with-disabilities/whats-new-2015-16

All in all - great news for students who have a Vision Disability - I wish
they had been there last year when my son was testing.  That lack of breaks
was a killer!

Mary

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Blindmath Digest, Vol 114, Issue 6 (Mary Woodyard)
   2. LaTeX : limit notation (Bill Dengler)
   3. Re: LaTeX : limit notation (Jon Yaggie)
   4. Re: LaTeX : limit notation (Ken Perry)
   5. Re: Quick question r.e. College Board AP Economics	Exam's and
      graphing your answers (Sabra Ewing)
   6. Re: Quick question r.e. College Board AP Economics Exam's and
      graphing your answers (derek riemer)
   7. Re: LaTeX : limit notation (Bill Dengler)


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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 08:17:05 -0500
From: "Mary Woodyard" <marywoodyard at comcast.net>
To: <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [Blindmath] Blindmath Digest, Vol 114, Issue 6
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Hi Jennifer,

I am the parent of a VI student who is a Freshman now in college but I just
helped him get accommodations through College Board for AP testing and it is
different for every student.  If you are taking a College Board class you
probably already have some accommodations.  My son did not take AP Econ - he
took APUSH, AP GOV and AP LANG.  However for his general College Board SAT
Math testing I know that to get a talking calculator approved took a little
work.  He also had use of a computer for voice dictation and screen reader
purposes.

To get any of this technology approved we had to fill out the special
request which you can get an overview for through this link
https://www.collegeboard.org/students-with-disabilities/request-accommodatio
ns.  I know that you will need to work with the testing coordinator at your
school to request these accommodations unless you are home schooled.  What I
learned through multiple requests is that your first one will probably not
be approved.  When I got a letter approving some accommodations - but not
the technology ones, I assumed they were denied.  They were not.  College
Board simply pended any technology requests and sent a request to the school
for more information.  College Board  will be looking for how you do your
work now.  You need to be working really closely with your Testing
Coordinator to show College Board how you would verbally describe the graph
or create a graph now.  What I found worked for us was that I made a short
(one minute) video that we emailed into the Special Testing unit showing how
my son did this type of work in his current school setting.  By showing
College Board how he used screen readers, voice dictation and talking
calculators in his school setting for normal testing, they approved it for
the college board AP test.  I actually mailed a video on a DVD in with his
original request and then sent an email with the video when they needed more
information.

Email me offline if you want more information marywoodyard at comcast.net.  To
answer your other questions, my son did have to provide his School computer
with Dragon and Zoom Text installed.  He also provided his own CCTV and
accessible TI 84 calculator.  Don't forget to get a microphone approved if
you are using voice dictation as that caused a snag in one SAT test.  You
will probably need to request extended time if you are using any type of
scribing - be it a human scribe or voice dictation.  When you get extra time
- depending on whether it is double time or time and a half - you will also
need to request testing over multiple days for the general SAT - you can
probably do a subject test in one day.  In my son's school, the Testing
Coordinator was not sure how to proceed when they got College Board's
request for more information about the accommodations - so just work closely
with them and good luck!

Mary Woodyard

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   1. Quick question r.e. College Board AP Economics Exam's and
      graphing your answers (Jennifer Benelli)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 23:02:29 -0800
From: Jennifer Benelli <jbenelli at smcoe.org>
To: blindmath at nfbnet.org
Subject: [Blindmath] Quick question r.e. College Board AP Economics
	Exam's and graphing your answers
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Dear Listers:

Thank you for your time to read this unique question.

At least one of the free response questions will require a graph-based
answer.

If you ever took an AP Economics Exam (by College Boards) or math related AP
Exam, how did you present your answers?

Did College Board provide materials?
Did you bring your materials?

Did you just verbally describe how you would create a graph?

Thanks,
Tzipora





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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 11:38:27 -0500
From: Bill Dengler <codeofdusk at gmail.com>
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Subject: [Blindmath] LaTeX : limit notation
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Hello,
How would I typeset the following in LaTeX?
As x approaches infinity, f(x) approaches some value.
Thanks,
Bill



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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 10:44:50 -0600
From: Jon Yaggie <jyaggi2 at uic.edu>
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Subject: Re: [Blindmath] LaTeX : limit notation
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\lim_{x\to\infty}f(x)=L.  Where L is the limit of f(x).  Or just as
x\to\infty f(x) approaches L.  

Jon Yaggie
EYH Chicago Coordinator
UIC Mathematics

> On Jan 26, 2016, at 10:38, Bill Dengler via Blindmath
<blindmath at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> How would I typeset the following in LaTeX?
> As x approaches infinity, f(x) approaches some value.
> Thanks,
> Bill
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 12:09:33 -0500
From: "Ken Perry" <kperry at blinksoft.com>
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Try:

\lim: $\lim_{x\to\infty}f(x)=0$.

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Subject: [Blindmath] LaTeX : limit notation

Hello,
How would I typeset the following in LaTeX?
As x approaches infinity, f(x) approaches some value.
Thanks,
Bill

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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 17:49:05 -0600
From: Sabra Ewing <sabra1023 at gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Blindmath] Quick question r.e. College Board AP
	Economics	Exam's and graphing your answers
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I believe their solution is to provide modified free response questions that
don't involve graphing. They provide the materials. You can register with
your peers, but when I did it, they were making blind people register way
far in advance and it was becoming ridiculous.

Sabra Ewing

> On Jan 26, 2016, at 1:02 AM, Jennifer Benelli via Blindmath
<blindmath at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Dear Listers:
> 
> Thank you for your time to read this unique question.
> 
> At least one of the free response questions will require a graph-based
answer.
> 
> If you ever took an AP Economics Exam (by College Boards) or math 
> related AP Exam, how did you present your answers?
> 
> Did College Board provide materials?
> Did you bring your materials?
> 
> Did you just verbally describe how you would create a graph?
> 
> Thanks,
> Tzipora
> 
> 
> 
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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 17:17:21 -0700
From: derek riemer <Derek.Riemer at Colorado.EDU>
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Subject: Re: [Blindmath] Quick question r.e. College Board AP
	Economics Exam's and graphing your answers
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Yeah. Tel me about it. They suck and that's one reason AP classes are BS.

On 1/26/2016 4:49 PM, Sabra Ewing via Blindmath wrote:
> I believe their solution is to provide modified free response questions
that don't involve graphing. They provide the materials. You can register
with your peers, but when I did it, they were making blind people register
way far in advance and it was becoming ridiculous.
>
> Sabra Ewing
>
>> On Jan 26, 2016, at 1:02 AM, Jennifer Benelli via Blindmath
<blindmath at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> Dear Listers:
>>
>> Thank you for your time to read this unique question.
>>
>> At least one of the free response questions will require a graph-based
answer.
>>
>> If you ever took an AP Economics Exam (by College Boards) or math 
>> related AP Exam, how did you present your answers?
>>
>> Did College Board provide materials?
>> Did you bring your materials?
>>
>> Did you just verbally describe how you would create a graph?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Tzipora
>>
>>
>>
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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 23:28:05 -0500
From: Bill Dengler <codeofdusk at gmail.com>
To: Jon Yaggie <jyaggi2 at uic.edu>
Cc: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
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Subject: Re: [Blindmath] LaTeX : limit notation
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Thanks.

BIll
> On Jan 26, 2016, at 11:44 AM, Jon Yaggie <jyaggi2 at uic.edu> wrote:
> 
> \lim_{x\to\infty}f(x)=L.  Where L is the limit of f(x).  Or just as
x\to\infty f(x) approaches L.  
> 
> Jon Yaggie
> EYH Chicago Coordinator
> UIC Mathematics
> 
>> On Jan 26, 2016, at 10:38, Bill Dengler via Blindmath
<blindmath at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> How would I typeset the following in LaTeX?
>> As x approaches infinity, f(x) approaches some value.
>> Thanks,
>> Bill
>> 
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