[BlindMath] BlindMath Digest, Vol 132, Issue 11
John Gardner
gardnerj at oregonstate.edu
Wed Jul 19 15:25:55 UTC 2017
Tolga, you are obviously a Jaws user, and I am sure your advice on using
Jaws is good. But NVDA is actually more powerful than Jaws for accessing
math. And it is free.
John
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karatas via BlindMath
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 5:09 AM
To: blindmath at nfbnet.org
Cc: tolga karatas <tolga.karatas2014 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [BlindMath] BlindMath Digest, Vol 132, Issue 11
Hi Mohammed;
To reach the resources for a blind user who wants to access mathematics
content using windows; you need to first of all; have a windows PC with Jaws
installed and activated;
next you will also need the math type and math player application created by
design science web link is:
http://www.dessci.com
if you have a focus 40 braille display this can also be used as well;
in edition; you will also need what's called an SBL File for Jaws; ELOQ.SBL;
to recognise maths characters;
Hope this helps;
Yours Sincerely;
Tolga Karatas;
please don't hesitate to get back in touch with me if you need more
information;
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> 5. Re: help with website name (Godfrey, Jonathan)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2017 15:36:07 +0200
> From: Muhammad Fayed <m10fayed at gmail.com>
> To: blindmath at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [BlindMath] New to blind math
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> Hi all,
> I?m a new subscriber for blind math and I want to know how to reach
> the resources of accessible math tools on either windows, linux or
> Mac. So , what should I do to reach these resources ?
> And I want to know if there is an alternative for Matlab on windows ?
> I?ve tried using it but it not accessible at all! I need to use it in
> some hand ins in the faculty.
> Any help would be appreciated,
> Sincerely ,
> Mohamed Fayed
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2017 09:58:47 -0400
> From: Sarah Jevnikar <sarah.jevnikar at gmail.com>
> To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
> <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [BlindMath] New to blind math
> Message-ID: <95AAB68C-039A-4A72-915E-58209A467F7C at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> Good morning Muhammad,
> Welcome to the list! You'll find lots of great help here.
>
> A good place to start is http://access2science.com for helpful resources.
> There is also a link at the bottom of each BlindMath e-mail with "gems"
> (highlights) of topics that come up a lot, such as Matlab and other
> programs. Also search the list archives for help.
>
> In order to be as helpful as we can, we'll have to know a few things
> from you and anyone else looking for help:
> 1. What technology do you use? JAWS? NVDA? Braille? ZoomText? Can you
> use a mouse?
> 2. Asking "is something accessible?" probably won't get a very
> thorough response, but a more specific question usually gets better
> results. Of course, if you're just getting started with something, you
> may not know the right questions to ask.
> 3. It also might be helpful sometimes to know where you're located to
> provide region-specific information, but this is not necessarily
essential.
> 4. In some instances it might be helpful to know your level of
> education, so we can give knowledge-appropriate assistance.
>
> I know this is more general than you might like, but I hope it is
> somewhat helpful.
>
> Welcome, and have a great day!
>
> Sarah
>
> On Jul 18, 2017, at 9:36 AM, Muhammad Fayed via BlindMath
> <blindmath at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> I?m a new subscriber for blind math and I want to know how to reach
> the resources of accessible math tools on either windows, linux or
> Mac. So , what should I do to reach these resources ?
> And I want to know if there is an alternative for Matlab on windows ?
> I?ve tried using it but it not accessible at all! I need to use it in
> some hand ins in the faculty.
> Any help would be appreciated,
> Sincerely ,
> Mohamed Fayed
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> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2017 10:02:46 -0500
> From: "Steve Jacobson" <steve.jacobson at visi.com>
> To: "'Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics'"
> <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [BlindMath] help with website name
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> Lukasz,
>
> It might be worth looking at
>
> www.blindscience.org
>
> to see if there is something there to which you want to contribute.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Steve Jacobson
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BlindMath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Taksan via BlindMath
> Sent: Monday, July 17, 2017 1:44 PM
> To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
> <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Taksan <taksantong at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [BlindMath] help with website name
>
> ?ukasz: whatever name you finally use for the website please let us
> all know how it goes. The project you described is very interesting
> and I offer my help if you guys are open to other contributors. I am a
> developer and I'm not blind.
>
> Returning to the topic of the "name", my humble opinion is to forget
> about using specific (or not widely known) scientific names and just
> go for something simple as "science4all"... take as an example the web
> somebody offered you, it is called "access2science", I believe that is
> a fantastic name in my opinion because the name "invites" you to read it,
regardless of
> the content inside. I believe many people can benefit from your project,
> not just people that understand what a monad is.
>
> Regards,
> Taksan
>
> On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 12:05 PM, ?ukasz Grabowski via BlindMath <
> blindmath at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I will soon be starting a (paid) webservice for visually impaired
>> STEM students, whose initial aim will be providing interfaces to
>> open-source software which are specifically designed for visually
>> impaired people (in case you're interested what's the service about,
>> I describe it briefly below, but it's an early stage).
>>
>> I spent way too much time thinking about a name :-). For now I chose
>> Blind Monad.
>>
>> All the guides I read about choosing the domain name suggest to check
>> with target demographics how they like it. So - do you like it? :-)
>> It's somewhat inspired by the name of this group.
>>
>> The word monad has many meanings but in the branch of maths called
>> category theory monad is something which in particular describes
>> interactions. Similarly in computer science monad is a concept which
>> can be used for description of user interfaces, etc. A friend told me
>> it's a bad name because noone will know what is a monad. I get the
>> point but perhaps on the other hand it invokes your curiosity? :-)
>>
>>
>>
>> Here are some very early details about the service. I came up with
>> this idea after a recent private conversation with another group
>> member Zach - it was clear that the problem he had, producing a
>> diagram of a biochemical reaction, can be fairly easily solved by
>> using open-source software. But the problem is having access to
>> linux, configuring orca or other linux screen reader correctly,
>> learning to interact with compilers, etc.
>>
>> So the idea is that perhaps at first one could use a web-based
>> front-end, and then if one thinks that it's a good idea, invest time
>> and resources into configuring their own computer. The kind of things
>> I want to provide access to are e.g. latex and latexml, python,
>> octave (clone of matlab), DOT language for graphs, etc. plus
"tailor-made"
>> interfaces if you want to solve some specific problem quickly. When I
>> say "tailor-made" I really mean that the user would describe the way
>> how they would prefer to interact with the website to solve a
>> concrete problem (e.g. producing a diagram of a biochemical
>> reaction), and then we work together to come up with an efficient
interface.
>>
>> In other words if you're a technically savvy person there's probably
>> not much in the above which you couldn't do yourself.
>> Also the service will not be meant to "hook you", but rather
>> introduce you to a technology in a most efficient fashion and
>> encourage to explore it on your own (perhaps on your own computer).
>> At a later stage I would perhaps also like to offer 1-1 "tutoring" in
>> usage of latex, octave, etc. but will see where it goes.
>>
>> Best,
>> Lukasz
>>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2017 12:03:26 -0500
> From: "Doug and Molly Miron" <mndmrn at hbci.com>
> To: "Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics"
> <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [BlindMath] New to blind math
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> Hi Mohammed,
>
> Current versions of MatLab for Windows are not accessible. I happen
> to know
>
> that version 5.3 will be accessible on a 32-bit WinXP box and you can
> download this version for free from MatLab's website. People on this
> list have told me that current versions of MatLab are accessible on
> Mac systems with VoiceOver.
>
> Octave is a free MatLab-like environment and the CLI (command-line
> interface) version is accessible using Windows 10 on a 64-bit machine.
> It runs many times slower than the 20-year old MatLab on my WinXP box,
> but if you aren't running matrix problems with thousands of unknowns
> this slowness
>
> is not likely an issue.
>
> Regards,
> Doug Miron
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Muhammad Fayed via BlindMath
> Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 8:36 AM
> To: blindmath at nfbnet.org
> Cc: Muhammad Fayed
> Subject: [BlindMath] New to blind math
>
> Hi all,
> I?m a new subscriber for blind math and I want to know how to reach
> the resources of accessible math tools on either windows, linux or
> Mac. So , what should I do to reach these resources ?
> And I want to know if there is an alternative for Matlab on windows ?
> I?ve tried using it but it not accessible at all! I need to use it in
> some hand ins in the faculty.
> Any help would be appreciated,
> Sincerely ,
> Mohamed Fayed
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> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2017 01:30:07 +0000
> From: "Godfrey, Jonathan" <A.J.Godfrey at massey.ac.nz>
> To: "sarah.jevnikar at gmail.com" <sarah.jevnikar at gmail.com>, "Blind Math
> list for those interested in mathematics" <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [BlindMath] help with website name
> Message-ID:
>
> <D59DA89C3CD73C44A799E7087F8E6A9E20E8E2C9 at tur-exch-node1.massey.ac.nz>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Hello all,
>
> I'm keen to improve the ability of bind people to access software in a
> general sense, but I'm curious about this initiative's ability to
> actually help.
>
> My concern is that if someone is not "savvy" enough to set up some of
> the software used as examples, then they are probably not ready to use
> that software. I note for example, that Python and Octave get a
> mention. I've never heard of anyone having issues with the
> installation of either, but I have heard of people not knowing which
> way to run the software or do the work required. Use of an alternative
> interface does not solve the real problem here. The same is true for
> LaTeX where none of the default editors shipped with the standard
installers for Windows are accessible.
>
> Furthermore, until I see a demonstration, I am loathed to offer people
> hope that the proposed solution will actually work without introducing
> an extra layer of possible problems. Web interfaces for STEM software
> have repeatedly let us down in the past. Consider the discussions
> about various notebook-oriented solutions in particular.
>
> I am a firm believer in giving people solutions that work, and making
> it easy to use the solutions includes making sure it is easy to set up
> the software in the first place. I would be extremely disappointed to
> see anyone pay for a service that is unnecessary, just because they
> don't know how to do the installation or know how to ask this
> community for help. I would include such software in this list as R,
> Maxima, Octave, Python, and SAS to name just a few.
>
> I would note that there is plenty of good advice in the list archives,
> and on a variety of webpages being mentioned as part of this thread.
> There is also an unfortunate tendency of people to state software is "not
accessible"
> when they haven't got it to work for them, or worse, overstating the
> accessibility of software without adequate testing. We need the most
> up to date information on so many applications; I don't have the
> energy or expertise to manage reviews of more than the statistical
> software and any other tools I actually do use. I would like to see
> for example, I page on mathematical software that is like the one I
> manage for statistical software.
>
> Finally, I would hope that anyone setting up a service is in the best
> position to offer advice from an expert point of view. To me, that
> includes a thorough consideration of the sense of using a particular
> tool. For example, Doug comments that Octave is slower than Matlab for
> running large computationally intensive jobs. Given he is interested
> in this particular aspect for his work and I'm not, I rely on his
> expertise on that specific topic. I could teach someone to use minitab
> for example, but I know that the accessibility issues are so great
> that overcoming them is not a smart move even though it is possible. I
> won't take money off people to help them use Minitab because I can't
> offer them a long term solution that isn't going to end up relying on
> my ongoing support. While my support is coming to people at no cost, I
> am happy not answering email as soon as it arrives. When it comes time
> to have to jump up and down to support everyone at a moment's notice,
> I'll consider charging for my time too, but I'm confident that my
> hourly rate is beyond the budget of most students. I am yet to refuse
anyone assistance in installing R or pointing them towards the right
resources.
>
> Jonathan
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BlindMath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Sarah Jevnikar via BlindMath
> Sent: Tuesday, 18 July 2017 8:18 a.m.
> To: '?ukasz Grabowski'; blindmath at nfbnet.org
> Cc: Sarah Jevnikar
> Subject: Re: [BlindMath] help with website name
>
> Oh okay - Thanks for the clarification Lucasz. I can see this being a
> really helpful resource after all, especially with TVI's and students
> at all levels not eager to learn new software in addition to new academic
concepts.
> Thanks again,
> Sarah
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ?ukasz Grabowski [mailto:graboluk at gmail.com]
> Sent: July 17, 2017 4:00 PM
> To: blindmath at nfbnet.org
> Cc: sarah.jevnikar at gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [BlindMath] help with website name
>
> Sarah, It's not about providing information, but interface :-).
>
> The point is: imagine someone on this mail list says e.g. you can do
> this and that using this and that software. But then you might be not
> technically savvy enough to set up that software. If this is the case
> then you can go to this webpage and essentially "run the software
> through the webpage via interface tailor-made for blind users". If you
> are technically savvy enough then the webpage won't do much for you.
>
> In any case many thanks to everyone for useful inputs about the name -
> I gave up with the monad thing (with great regret! :-)) and settled on
> a more generic name along the lines which were suggested (I'm not
> announcing it just yet because I haven't bought the domain just yet
> :-)
> )
>
> I hope to have some proof of concept in two weeks or less, first for
> latex and latexml, later for python and matlab/octave. I have further
> plans as well, some quite ambitious :-), and indeed it's likely I will
> look for contributors if the service ever take off, but that's
> probably several weeks or few months from now (if ever). I'll keep the
> list updated after I have something to share.
>
> Best,
> Lukasz
>
>
> On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 15:47:01 -0400
> Sarah Jevnikar via BlindMath <blindmath at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
>> I confess I'm with Dr. Gardiner - I'm confused as to what this site
>> would provide. I'm also concerned that diluting the amount of
>> available information would make a difficult-to-access subject even
>> more difficult to access.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: BlindMath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>> John Gardner via BlindMath
>> Sent: July 15, 2017 7:00 AM
>> To: 'Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics'
>> Cc: John Gardner
>> Subject: Re: [BlindMath] help with website name
>>
>> Hi, I may be just dense, but I don't get it. What will you offer that
>> is not available on this list? If an archive of directed information
>> is needed, I am happy to offer access2science.com as a web site to
>> post hints and instructions. There is already a lot there, though I
>> must admit it has not been updated enough since it was first put
>> together. Anybody want to volunteer to join the editorial staff?
>>
>> John Gardner
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: BlindMath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>> Lukasz Grabowski via BlindMath
>> Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 8:06 AM
>> To: blindmath at nfbnet.org
>> Cc: ?ukasz Grabowski <graboluk at gmail.com>
>> Subject: [BlindMath] help with website name
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I will soon be starting a (paid) webservice for visually impaired
>> STEM students, whose initial aim will be providing interfaces to
>> open-source software which are specifically designed for visually
>> impaired people (in case you're interested what's the service about,
>> I describe it briefly below, but it's an early stage).
>>
>> I spent way too much time thinking about a name :-). For now I chose
>> Blind Monad.
>>
>> All the guides I read about choosing the domain name suggest to check
>> with target demographics how they like it. So - do you like it? :-)
>> It's somewhat inspired by the name of this group.
>>
>> The word monad has many meanings but in the branch of maths called
>> category theory monad is something which in particular describes
>> interactions. Similarly in computer science monad is a concept which
>> can be used for description of user interfaces, etc. A friend told me
>> it's a bad name because noone will know what is a monad. I get the
>> point but perhaps on the other hand it invokes your curiosity? :-)
>>
>>
>>
>> Here are some very early details about the service. I came up with
>> this idea after a recent private conversation with another group
>> member Zach - it was clear that the problem he had, producing a
>> diagram of a biochemical reaction, can be fairly easily solved by
>> using open-source software. But the problem is having access to
>> linux, configuring orca or other linux screen reader correctly,
>> learning to interact with compilers, etc.
>>
>> So the idea is that perhaps at first one could use a web-based
>> front-end, and then if one thinks that it's a good idea, invest time
>> and resources into configuring their own computer. The kind of things
>> I want to provide access to are e.g. latex and latexml, python,
>> octave (clone of matlab), DOT language for graphs, etc. plus
"tailor-made"
>> interfaces if you want to solve some specific problem quickly. When I
>> say "tailor-made" I really mean that the user would describe the way
>> how they would prefer to interact with the website to solve a
>> concrete problem (e.g. producing a diagram of a biochemical
>> reaction), and then we work together to come up with an efficient
interface.
>>
>> In other words if you're a technically savvy person there's probably
>> not much in the above which you couldn't do yourself.
>> Also the service will not be meant to "hook you", but rather
>> introduce you to a technology in a most efficient fashion and
>> encourage to explore it on your own (perhaps on your own computer).
>> At a later stage I would perhaps also like to offer 1-1 "tutoring" in
>> usage of latex, octave, etc. but will see where it goes.
>>
>> Best,
>> Lukasz
>>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2017 12:28:23 +0530
> From: Laxmisagar Samai <laxmisagar304 at gmail.com>
> To: blindmath at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [BlindMath] Emacs with Screen Readers
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> Hello,
>
> Does anyone has any experience in using Emacs as an editing
> application for statistical softwares like, R, SAS and STATA with
> screen readers?
> I request for some help.
>
> Thank you
> Laxmisagar
> Mumbai (India)
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2017 07:09:12 +0000
> From: "Godfrey, Jonathan" <A.J.Godfrey at massey.ac.nz>
> To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
> <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [BlindMath] Emacs with Screen Readers
> Message-ID:
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>
> Hi,
>
> You might look for a webpage for the "Emacs Speaks Statistics"
> project, often abbreviated to the acronym "ESS". Please note that this
> is different to EmacsSpeaks
>
> Sorry, I am not an Emacs user so can't offer any real assistance. You
> might find more help by joining the BlindRUG email list (also hosted
> by the NFB) and asking your question within that group. I do know
> there is at least one Emacs user on that list. I do not know which screen
reader they use though.
>
> Jonathan
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BlindMath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Laxmisagar Samai via BlindMath
> Sent: Wednesday, 19 July 2017 6:58 p.m.
> To: blindmath at nfbnet.org
> Cc: Laxmisagar Samai
> Subject: [BlindMath] Emacs with Screen Readers
>
> Hello,
>
> Does anyone has any experience in using Emacs as an editing
> application for statistical softwares like, R, SAS and STATA with screen
readers?
> I request for some help.
>
> Thank you
> Laxmisagar
> Mumbai (India)
>
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> Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2017 16:20:15 +0530
> From: Laxmisagar Samai <laxmisagar304 at gmail.com>
> To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
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> Subject: Re: [BlindMath] Emacs with Screen Readers
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> Thank you Jonathan,
> I will check with the blindRUG,
>
> Laxmisagar
>
>
>
> On 7/19/17, Godfrey, Jonathan via BlindMath <blindmath at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> You might look for a webpage for the "Emacs Speaks Statistics"
>> project, often abbreviated to the acronym "ESS". Please note that
>> this is different to EmacsSpeaks
>>
>> Sorry, I am not an Emacs user so can't offer any real assistance. You
>> might find more help by joining the BlindRUG email list (also hosted
>> by the
>> NFB)
>> and asking your question within that group. I do know there is at
>> least one Emacs user on that list. I do not know which screen reader
>> they use though.
>>
>> Jonathan
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: BlindMath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>> Laxmisagar Samai via BlindMath
>> Sent: Wednesday, 19 July 2017 6:58 p.m.
>> To: blindmath at nfbnet.org
>> Cc: Laxmisagar Samai
>> Subject: [BlindMath] Emacs with Screen Readers
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Does anyone has any experience in using Emacs as an editing
>> application for statistical softwares like, R, SAS and STATA with
>> screen readers?
>> I request for some help.
>>
>> Thank you
>> Laxmisagar
>> Mumbai (India)
>>
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