[BlindMath] FW: MathPlayer Braille Display Issues

Frankel, Lois E lfrankel at ETS.ORG
Mon Jun 12 23:01:09 UTC 2017


The document can also be downloaded here:
http://www.dessci.com/en/reference/ies-ets/instructional_material/default.htm

I noticed that a word had gone astray in the acknowledgements in the version posted to this list, so wanted to be sure that NVAccess, who did the modifications to NVDA gets the credit it is due, since that word was lost from the document as posted here. Lots of other ClearSpeak info there as well.

Full Disclosure:
I was the PI of the project that developed the ClearSpeak materials. Our final paper, along with earlier papers and presentations, is available here:
http://www.dessci.com/en/reference/ies-ets/reports.htm

Regards,
Lois



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Lois Frankel, Ph.D.
Assessment Specialist IV, Assessment Development
Educational Testing Service
Mail Stop 14-N   Room N157  609-683-2985
lfrankel at ets.org

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Subject: [BlindMath] FW: MathPlayer Braille Display Issues

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Subject: MathPlayer Braille Display Issues

Folks,

The conbination of MathPlayer, MathType, and NVDA is very effective.

While I have not noticed any errors in the math speech, I am seeing errors in the Braille display output.

In the MathPlayer tutorial
(https://www.dessci.com/en/reference/ies-ets/instructional_material/MathPlay
er_Navigation_Tutorial.docx), which I have attached to this message, The equations involving the distance formula are spoken correctly, but the Braille output lacks minus signs and closing parentheses.  You can see this in [Expressions 1, 2, and 3]: The distance formula: The distance between points and  is given by the formula  .

Also, in the VFO (JAWS) web example
http://www.freedomscientific.com/content/html/jawshq/MathML-Samples.html),
The integral has an extra x1t1x on the end, and the Sine function has an extra x5 at the end.  Again, the speech is correct.

The JAWS math mode does not have these issues.

I am using the latest releases of NVDA, Firefox,  and JAWS, and a HumanWare Brailliant 40 (the original Brailliant display) which is called a Baum super vario.

I would appreciate a second Braille output opinion.  It could be something in my own environment.


Regards
Louis Maher
Phone: 713-444-7838
E-mail: ljmaher at swbell.net


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