[Blindmath] math type accessibility with jaws screen reader,

Mon Mar 6 21:20:03 UTC 2017

As you probably found, \cdot is the multiplication dot and \times is used
for cross product.

There are two epsilons in TeX: \epsilon and \varepsilon. It's a bit
confusing because they may not mean what you think. The Unicode description
of them is:
\epsilon:  GREEK LUNATE EPSILON SYMBOL
\varepsilon: GREEK SMALL LETTER EPSILON

\epsilon looks very similar to the "element of" symbol.

I do see the problem in MathPlayer -- the Unicode corresponding to \epsilon
(0x03F5) was accidentally commented out along with other more obscure
characters. You can fix this by:
1. Open in your favorite text editor the file %programfiles%\Design
Science\MathPlayer 2014\Rules\en\unicode.tdl [the path might be a bit
different on your machine]
2. Find the line that contains 0x03F5,
3. Add a line before that line that has the end comment characters "*/"
(don't include the quotes).
4. After the line with 0x03F5, add a line that has the start comment
characters "/*".
5. Save the file (it may be read only, in which case use file properties to
make it writeable)

Good luck,

Neil Soiffer

On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 12:44 PM, Doug and Molly Miron <mndmrn at hbci.com>
wrote:

>     Hello Neil and Louis,
>
> Well, I learned a few more things from you and Wiki books.  The removal of
> \dot must have fixed some other mistake.  From your syntax I suspected that
> I had the wrong kind of dot, which was true.  \dot produces an overdot, the
> notation for a time derivative.  What I found in the Wiki LaTeX book is a
> centered dot which means inner product, which is what I wanted.  It may be
> that I’ll need the cross or outer product sometime.  Is that what you get
> from \times?  NVDA and MathPlayer have some speaking issues, in particular,
> they won’t say either the MathType or mathml versions of epsilon.  It’ll be
> spoken from plain text, but not when converted.  I’m using Windows 10 and
> Word 2016.  What versions are you running?
>
> Regards,
> Doug Miron
>
> *From:* Neil Soiffer
> *Sent:* Sunday, March 5, 2017 9:21 PM
> *To:* Doug and Molly Miron
> *Subject:* Re: [Blindmath] math type accessibility with jaws screen
> reader,
>
> If you make an error, what I see is that whatever could be converted is
> converted and the illegal part is displayed in red. Alt+\ will take you
> back to what you typed in. I didn't try it with speech -- perhaps the
> speech is confusing.
>
> Also, \dot works for me. E.g, $\dot x$ or $\dot{x}$ both work. Note that
> there is a space after \dot in the first example.
>
> FYI: If you meant your email to go to more than just me, you didn't do a
> reply-all. It only went to me.
>
> Good luck,
>
> Neil Soiffer
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 5, 2017 at 6:18 PM, Doug and Molly Miron <mndmrn at hbci.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Good day folks,
>>
>> I have been experimenting with the alt+[backslash] method for converting
>> LaTeX to MathType.  As Neil says, you have to begin and end the equations
>> with the $ sign.  Also, if you are using JAWS and do the conversion you get
>> an unreadable image, so NVDA is the way to go for this purpose.  If the
>> conversion fails, a failure message appears and your original text has
>> disappeared.  So what I’ve been doing is copying the text to  be converted
>> to the clipboard so I can paste  it back if conversion  failure happens.
>> You don’t get a helpful error message, so what I’ve done is divide the math
>> into shorter segments to isolate the problem.  My most recent problem was
>> that \dot wouldn’t convert.  I haven’tgone back to this issue other than to
>> remove it.  I need to find a sensible way to represent a vector dot roduc
>> t, but I’ve been doing other stuff lately.  Good luck.      The number for
>> Design Scien ce (MathType) help is
>>
>> DS help 1 (562) 432-2920 <(562)%20432-2920>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Doug Miron
>>
>>
>> *From:* Neil Soiffer
>> *Sent:* Sunday, March 5, 2017 7:40 PM
>> *To:* Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
>> *Cc:* Doug and Molly Miron
>> *Subject:* Re: [Blindmath] math type accessibility with jaws screen
>> reader,
>>
>> LaTeX is a full programming language; MathType only accepts a subset of
>> common LaTeX math commands called TeXvc. Sorry, I didn't see a good manual
>> that describes the commands in TeXvc -- if you need a manual, I suggest
>> contacting support at dessci.com for more info. MathType looks for $...$ or
>> \[...\] in Word as delimiters for TeX; I don't believe that you can change
>> those.
>>
>>     Neil
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 9:56 AM, Doug and Molly Miron via Blindmath <
>> blindmath at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Good day Neil,
>>>
>>> Is there another way to convert LaTeX to MathType/MathPlayer?  The
>>> alt+[backslash] shortcut seems to ignore \begin{equation} and
>>> \begin{align}. If not, I can live with the $...$ method and add equation
>>> numbers myself. Can you give me a reference for math typesetting in LaTeX?
>>> I have bookmarked the symbol tables  on the web, but I have  other
>>> questions and there are doubtless questions I'm too ignorant to ask.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Doug Miron
>>>
>>>
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