[BlindMath] BlindMath Digest, Vol 128, Issue 23

Mon Mar 27 13:42:38 UTC 2017

I don't have answers for you. I can only tell you what has worked,
sometimes, for me. From experience with my university as a graduate student,
what has helped was to talk to people up the food chain until the matter was
addressed. This can take a long time, however, and impacted my ability to
complete course work in a timely manner. It also really does a number on
your relations further down the command line when they think you betrayed
them. I'm speaking with someone from the NFB now to ensure I follow all the
steps in documenting my problems with accessibility. I've always struggled
to keep a balance between assertiveness, being too compromising, and coming
across as passive aggressive. Generally any action I take I am told I'm all
three of these things depending on if I'm talking with parents, the
disabilities office, or the NFB. 

I found summaries of Section 504, and wrote gentle but firm letters
specifying where I was entitled to auxiliary aids to my disabilities office;
and specified an action to be taken to meet my needs. I tended to use a lot
of "To perform in my duties... I require...," type statements in such
letters. When it seemed I wasn't getting the needed response from the
office, I started copying other people such as my voc rehab councilor and
the  MS state NFB president to these emails. This approach only seemed to
work when my advisor got behind me and started coming to meetings, however.
This is a very exhausting exercise and one I really hope few ever have to
experience. 

In your situation, and in mine if I could turn back the clocks, I'd really
advocate for not just my own accommodations, but for staff to take some kind
of accessibility awareness training. I think that more than anything else
would have helped when I tried having intelligent conversations regarding
classroom accessibility. 

Hope this is helpful.

Zac

Zachary Mason
M.S. Student
Animal and Dairy Sciences
Mississippi State University

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From: BlindMath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of tolga
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Subject: Re: [BlindMath] BlindMath Digest, Vol 128, Issue 23

All,

a quick question about Winshell tex editor and LaTEX editors in general,

I have been advised to 0use TEXstudio which is one  of the LaTEX editors to
do coursework, and I have discovered it doesn't work with Jaws Screen
Reader, or NVDA,

but their is a suitable alternative which works with Jaws, called Winshell,
which is another tex editor; but my university ddon't want to understand
that I am having problems accessing the TEXStudio tex editor, with assistive
software, how can I get this message across please?

Regards,

Tolga Karatas.

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> Hello everyone,
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> Just catching up on e-mails from the past few weeks.
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> Zach, I couldn?t agree more with Lukas, in my experience writing 
> directly to the authors always resulted in an accessible format of the 
> book, usually LaTeX, within just a few days. When approaching 
> publishers, May be 2 out of
> 10 occasions has led to success, but only after weeks, and months of 
> waiting.
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> So when you can approach the author, try that first, possibly with the 
> help of a faculty member, or a scientist from the field who knows 
> personally the author.
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> Daniel
>> On 10 Mar 2017, at 16:44, ?ukasz Grabowski via BlindMath 
>> <blindmath at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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>> Hi Zach, so what's the textbook?
>>
>> I think you have a much better chance if you contact the authors - it 
>> would be hard for me even to image an author of a maths book which 
>> would refuse giving you the sources for your pirvate use. I used 
>> something like this.
>>
>> Dear ...,
>>
>> I am a mathematics lecturer at the Lancaster University, and I 
>> currently prepare teaching materials for a visually impaired student.
>> It would be of enormous help if I could get access to the TeX files 
>> (or other source files) of your book ... .
>> Do you think you could provide me with such TeX files or source files?
>>
>> I would use the source files exclusively for providing versions of 
>> the book, which is the main reference for some of our courses, to our 
>> visually impaired students.
>>
>> With best wishes,
>> ...
>>
>> Best,
>> ?ukasz
>>
>> On Fri, 10 Mar 2017 09:01:14 -0600
>> Zach via BlindMath <blindmath at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I wrote before about this course, but wanted to ask about peoples'
>>> experiences requesting accessible versions of text books from 
>>> publishers and authors. As Dr. Godfrey pointed out, my text book is 
>>> over ten years old, but my prof fervently believes this is the 
>>> end-all text for applied linear regression. Unfortunately I've found 
>>> my learning style depends on reading a text book more than listening 
>>> to lectures, and my prof assigns almost all homework's as problems 
>>> from the book-not the hard part, I just get people to read them to 
>>> me, but understanding the material when you've fallen way behind and 
>>> have a thousand commitments is. So after that rant. could someone 
>>> share with me a sample letter they may have sent to an author and/or 
>>> publisher that elicited a positive response, that is to say the 
>>> author(s)/publisher sent them an accessible and/or workable format 
>>> of the text? My disabilities office contacted the publisher at the 
>>> beginning of the semester to which the response was "We don't have 
>>> an electronic copy of this book." Is that possible considering the 
>>> book was published in 2004? My DSS then shredded my hard copy and 
>>> made a readable PDF, but as we all know math doesn't translate, 
>>> which is kind of important in regression.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you Dr. Godfrey again for the tutorial resources. I'm getting 
>>> to them ASAP. If I'm ever in NZ or you in US perhaps we should try 
>>> meeting up.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks all,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Zac
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Zachary Mason
>>>
>>> M.S. Student
>>>
>>> Animal and Dairy Sciences
>>>
>>> Mississippi State University
>>>
>>>
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> Are there any plans to host similar seminars in European countries? I 
> believe NFB has divisions in the UK as well, which would benefit all 
> those students and accessible STEM experts coming from farther field.
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> Daniel
>> On 9 Mar 2017, at 03:30, John Gardner via Blindmath 
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>> The meeting is the National Federation of the Blind convention and is 
>> in Orlando, Florida beginning Monday, July 10 and ending on Saturday, 
>> July 16.
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>> Good day John,
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>> Where is this meeting taking place, and what is the last day?  Thanks.
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