[BlindMath] Areas still to work on?

Sun May 31 18:23:35 UTC 2026

I would agree and I wrote an expression parser once in python for fun.  With that said.  We are at a breaking point. The new AI models that are popping up will be able to do much more better. True right now they are non deterministic but the things you can make with them to do what you want now and have them make it deterministic is almost amazing. Two years ago I would not have said this but in less than 2 years we won't have any problem producing 2D and 3D mathematics from formula's in either Nemeth or Ascii math.  I feel like having to be a programmer to be a mathematician is just extra work and that is coming from someone who currently works as a Senior Software Engineer.

Ken

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What about the idea of using existing math coding languages that we have to use anyway with computers, like Sage, Wolfram, etc?  We already have to know those, and after working out a long problem, we often have to test our work to see if it is correct, so we have to code it into something to work in a computer.  If we had the option to enter a long formula in Safe/Wolfram/Pithon, whatever, code, and then the computer, which obviously knows how to read such code, would convert that into 2d graphical display, which we could peruse with a screen reader, that might give some options not previously available, and that would be good even for sighted people.

Ray. 

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As a sighted person you may not know the speed in which your tools urn matters.  Recorded speech is not the best.  A lot of the symbols already speak fine with screen readers. The problem is more the graphical style of math that many authors use.  We are so much farther along than we were even 2 years ago.

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Hi

This is a very interesting thread. I'm sighted, and reading your comments educates me. I'm trained as a pure mathematician.

Here are two comments regarding accessibility and mathematics as a formal and highly symbolic language.

The first is that the symbols used depend on the context. I think having a list of relevant symbols (and their meanings) will be a great help.

The second is that we could use pre-recorded or pre-generated speech for the most common symbols, instead of generic text to speech.

To summarize, I'm suggesting that we consider creating a mode specially designed for authoring and speaking mathematics. In this maths mode there can be a context, which is a short list of common or allowed symbols.

I hope this is clear. I welcome comments. Please you'd like some examples.

with best wishes
Jonathan
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