[humanser] statistics course

Mon Aug 5 04:54:39 UTC 2013

I appreciate the advice that has been given so far. I will definitely use it.

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On Aug 4, 2013, at 9:31 PM, Kaiti Shelton <crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Mary,
> 
> Great to know; as a student who is not very strong in math at all and
> never really has been, it's heartening to know that graduate level
> stats courses are somewhat different.  I did okay in the undergraduate
> class but it wasn't stellar, and was a little weary about stats
> courses to come when I go for my masters.
> 
> But, this brings up another really good point.  You as the student
> really have to fascilitate any dialogue between the DS, your
> professor, and yourself not just about your accomodations, but also
> pertaining to what you might need in terms of time.  In addition to
> your professor meeting with you in office hours, you can also try to
> see if the prof, DS, or both can find a tutor who can work with you as
> well.  For me I was able to get the head of the tutoring services in
> the ds office to refer me to a student who specifically tutored kids
> in my Math 207 course, and he was wonderful because he could explain
> concepts in several different ways until he found the way that made
> the most sense from a nonvisual perspective.  I
> 
> Also, don't be afraid to work with other classmates, especially if one
> is a friend.  I had a friend who took the class with the same
> professor and did pretty well the semester before, and when I was
> really in a pinch I could go to her for answering questions.  I also
> asked people who were blind and taking stats courses in other
> universities how they were solving problems in excel, since one of the
> challenges I was facing was that the sighted students in my class were
> using graphing calculators for everything and of course that wasn't
> something that was available to me.  Basically, don't be afraid to use
> any and all resources at your disposal.
> 
> On 8/4/13, MARY CHAPPELL <MTC5 at cox.net> wrote:
>> I completely concur with JD and others,  collaborative support of the
>> professor is critical to your success. My undergraduate statts class was
>> really the  most challenging course of them all. Before I even applied for
>> graduate school I met with my favorite prof who was the graduate advisor. I
>> asked him  what the challenges might be for a blind student in a graduate
>> psychology program and he said he could not imagine teaching stats to a
>> student who is blind. Stats is necessary undergrad, and in any post grad
>> endeavor. When the time came for me to enroll I reminded him of his
>> confession and he stepped up. He first secured an outstanding TA (teaching
>> assistant) who was committed to making all the formulas accessible,
>> understood the nuances of behavioral sciences and statistics, and had a
>> keen
>> manner of making the untangible concrete. She knew that SPSS was not
>> readily
>> accessible with JAWS and partnered with me to work through all the steps
>> with her acting as a reader. The partnering with that professor allowed me
>> to  complete that course with an A. Advocating for one's self is important.
>> Meeting with the professor in advance so that all workbooks and text are
>> made accessible to your preference is important and I would advise that you
>> not rely upon the Disability Service office to negotiate  on your behalf.
>> You need to ascertain your need;  following your gleening an understanding
>> of the course expectation and objectives make your accommodation requests
>> known to both prof and Disability Service Office.
>> 
>> Master's and doctoral level stats classes are much more user friendly as
>> the
>> objective is more focused on making the professional an astute consumer of
>> research so, there is a greater focus on research design, inference and
>> extrapolation. Students come to understand the interpretive value of
>> findings, strength of methodology and study design to be able to
>> appropriately apply research findings in your work, whether research,
>> clinical, or applied. Literature review, critical comparison and contrast
>> are typically part of those classes.
>> Mary Chappell
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: humanser [mailto:humanser-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kaiti
>> Shelton
>> Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2013 7:08 PM
>> To: Human Services Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [humanser] statistics course
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I took a stats course just last semester.  Here are some things I would
>> suggest.
>> 
>> 1.  The professor really is key.  You want someone who will be willing to
>> make reasonable accomodations and help you get the concepts, so
>> pre-screening your profs before you sign up for their section is good.
>> I was able to talk to my disability services staff and they put me in
>> touch
>> with a great professor who was willing to set up office hour appointments
>> and go over material ooutside of class with me.
>> Definitely try to pick someone who will be willing to work with you.
>> 
>> 2. For graphs there are several things you could do depending on what type
>> of graph it is.  If your class is excel-based at all you can perform a lot
>> of the graph functions in excel.  If not, talk to your ds office about them
>> making the graphs for you.  My prof was very good about giving the ds
>> people
>> advanced notice of what the homework would be, so they were able to make my
>> graphs and print them out on the Tiger for me to feel.  In other situations
>> when you have something like a table, your professor can write that in a
>> microsoft word document.  We had a system of putting guided note sheets and
>> any diagrams like that in documents on a flashdrive and it worked out very
>> well.
>> 
>> 3.  I'd get in touch with Arielle about your specific program, but keep in
>> mind that if it is not accessible to you then your DS office and prof need
>> to work with you to find a reasonable alternative for the solution.  If you
>> have not started any dialogue between your professor, the ds office, and
>> yourself yet I would do that as quickly as possible.
>> 
>> On 8/4/13, JD Townsend <43210 at bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hello:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Having taken a few statistics classes all I can say is that each one
>>> has been different.  My favorite was in grad school as a part of my
>>> social work
>>> 
>>> program.  In it reading and criticing various research study was in
>>> order with very little math.  The most difficult was in a psychology
>>> undergraduate
>>> 
>>> class that focused entirely on the math.  As in most classes the
>>> teacher is
>>> 
>>> the pivit point.  So, check out your favorite prof ranking site and
>>> choose the best.
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: crystal redick
>>> Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2013 2:52 AM
>>> To: humanser at nfbnet.org
>>> Subject: [humanser] statistics course
>>> 
>>> Hello All,
>>> 
>>> I hope everyone is enjoying their summer so far. I have a couple
>>> concerns I would like to discuss with you guys concerning my
>>> statistics course I will start in the fall. I do not know much about
>>> statistic courses, so I do not know what accomodations I should ask
>>> for. Does this class require the use of graphs and if so how did you
>>> work with them. I understand that the program SPSS is needed for the
>>> course I will take, but what worries me is that I have no clue how to
>>> use it. If any of you have used this program I would really appreciate
>>> your advice. I look forward to hearing from everyone.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thank you,
>>> Crystal Redick
>>> 
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