[humanser] Drivers license requirement for employment

justin williams justin.williams2 at gmail.com
Thu Dec 26 20:19:18 UTC 2013


Hard to do, because you don't know exactly you did or didn't get the job,
but I guess it has some merritt. 

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From: humanser [mailto:humanser-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sandy
Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2013 3:08 PM
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Subject: Re: [humanser] Drivers license requirement for employment

Yes, we each have to tell what we want to tell at the time that feels
comfortable to us.  Once it was suggested to me to approach interviews using
different approaches of disclosure; then analyze which approached worked
better.


Sandy

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From: "justin williams" <justin.williams2 at gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2013 1:41 PM
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Subject: Re: [humanser] Drivers license requirement for employment

> I agree with that.  This is not trying to tell anyone else how to 
> conduct their job interview, but you have to make the employer 
> comfortable with you, and sometimes, that is explaining to thme how a 
> job can be done using assistive technology.  You don't have to reveal 
> the whole thing, and make it a grand show, but describing the tools of 
> blindness pertaining to the job is something that an interviewee 
> should do as a basic overview.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: humanser [mailto:humanser-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sandy
> Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2013 12:54 PM
> To: Human Services Mailing List; Carly Mihalakis
> Subject: Re: [humanser] Drivers license requirement for employment
>
> Carlee,
>
> I understand your point.  In my opinion, when I go for an interview 
> and the employer knows nothing about my blindness, I am sure he/she is 
> going to wonder how paperwork and so on will get done.  I think that 
> telling the employer one's abilities, if you use cognitive theory, 
> etc. is important.
> Secondary to that, I believe it is okay for me to give information as 
> to how certain parts of the job can be handled by me.  Blindness is 
> not the same type of characteristic as hair color, for example.
>
>
> Sandy
>
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> From: "Carly Mihalakis" <carlymih at comcast.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 25, 2013 4:58 AM
> To: "Sandy" <sandraburgess at msn.com>; "Human Services Mailing List"
> <humanser at nfbnet.org>; "Human Services Mailing List" 
> <humanser at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [humanser] Drivers license requirement for employment
>
>> Good morning,
>>
>> It would seem to me that, inflicting a shocked state on to someone 
>> who interacts with you most likely will reduce conditions to that 
>> which many blind people resent, being seeing only for blindness and 
>> not for the flaming and colorful people, we often are.
>> I believe in blindness being so mythic amongst sighted cultures that, 
>> among the things of which we are without is a presumed entitlement of 
>> anonymity, blindness forever being a presence I came to know in 
>> deviance class, a master status or the single characteristic beyond 
>> anything else by which you are identified I.E Black president, gay
> teacher, deaf Ms.
>> America among many others. It could be a sort of game.
>>
>> So, I do digress, it seems honest just to tell a potential employer 
>> this identifying characteristic of your's. After all, would you have 
>> a problem disclosing that you might be a blond, a redhead or Chinese?
>> for today, Car
>>
>> .
>>
>>
>>>Sandy
>>>
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>>>From: "JD Townsend" <43210 at Bellsouth.net>
>>>Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 10:29 PM
>>>To: "Human Services Mailing List" <humanser at nfbnet.org>
>>>Subject: Re: [humanser] Drivers license requirement for employment
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Sadly some folks are prejudice on the outset.  I took a 2 hour trip 
>>>>for an interview once and the interviewer told me at the door that 
>>>>the job was too intense for me, without even letting me speak;  
>>>>seems my white cane said all she wanted to know.
>>>>
>>>>I learned after many interviews that I had to compete not as a blind 
>>>>applicant, but as the best applicant.  Some people tell an 
>>>>interviewer on the outset that they are blind or visually impaired, 
>>>>but I have never seen the wisdom in this.  I find that the initial 
>>>>hand-shake and the walk down long corridors to the interview room, 
>>>>finding my seat and addressing the real issues of the job have 
>>>>served me well.  When I have taken this attitude, ignoring my 
>>>>blindness as an issue, the interviews have gone much better.  I tell 
>>>>the interviewer that I dislike paperwork, but that I sleep much 
>>>>better when it is up to date;  should they ask me how I do it I say 
>>>>that I have PC add-ons that have served me well in the past and that 
>>>>it should
> not be a problem with whatever system they are using.
>>>>Should they ask about transportation I tell them that I got here on 
>>>>my own and on time and that I should have no problem.  It isn't my 
>>>>job to explain about adaptive equipment or transportation, just that 
>>>>I can do the job, then I re-focus on my strengths as a clinical 
>>>>social worker and how I might fit my skills into serving the agency.
>>>>
>>>>If we allow disability or adaptations to become a focus of an 
>>>>interview instead of our skills and work ethic we have no chance for
> employment.
>>>>
>>>>Just my opinion, sorry for the lecture.
>>>>
>>>>JD
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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