[humanser] Excess ability question regarding JavaScript and electronic medical record

Doug Lee dgl at dlee.org
Mon Oct 6 12:16:29 UTC 2014


You'll make me wish I had a way to see the software of which you
speak. I'm a professional scripter, on this list out of interest in
the field rather than out of any professional participation in it.

Javascript implies HTML, which is usually at least somewhat accessible
via JAWS depending on how it's written and whether it uses custom
components (objects) written in something else. I am therefore curious
what happens when you try to access this.

I'm sure a discussion following from my message will stray from topic
to tech, so feel free to write me off list at dgl at dlee.org if you
prefer. I may not have a ready solution to your issues without work,
but I may at the very least be able to figure out if it can be made
usable for you.

On Mon, Oct 06, 2014 at 05:38:18AM -0600, Beth Lpc via humanser wrote:
Hi,

Any suggestions for reasonable accommodations would be helpful. My biggest fear is that they will think I cannot do the job because we cannot make the software accessible. And my fear is also there is no technology to make it accessible. It Is old software. Thus, I think I will need a reader and Scribe or  some other reasonable accommodationto do my job.



Thanks,
BethSent from my iPhone

> On Oct 5, 2014, at 11:23 PM, Dr. Mary Chappell <mtc5 at cox.net> wrote:
> 
> Beth,
> My email has been down so, I am just seeing this. I would like to share with
> you my most recent experiences with electronic medical records and what my
> employer agreed to do to allow me to complete my documentation and access
> records. I am currently going through training with the new scripting, JAWS
> and Kurzweil. It is pretty incredible to access the many forms that are
> completed daily for patient interaction and, while I waited nearly 4 years
> to attain this accessibility, I trust that with time and attention, I will
> be able to document in the fullest manner. If I can be of assistance please
> let me know and I can let you know how the "reasonable accommodations" came
> into being. 
> 
> Genuinely,
> Mary Tatum Chappell, Psy. D.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: humanser [mailto:humanser-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of David
> Andrews via humanser
> Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2014 9:41 PM
> To: Bet LPC; Human Services Division Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [humanser] Excess ability question regarding JavaScript and
> electronic medical record
> 
> There are not black and white answers to some of the questions you 
> ask.  For example does X work with javascript.  It will depend on how 
> the javascript was written, possibly on the framework used for 
> development etc.  And ... the problems could be with java, not javascript.
> 
> All you can do is test with different screen readers.   This is what 
> assistive technology specialists do.
> 
> I have heard that some people are able to read screens using the new 
> version of the KNFB-Reader on the iPhone, but I would guess that this 
> works for occasional access, I doubt it would be good enough, or easy 
> enough for regular and constant use.
> 
> Dave
> 
> At 06:00 PM 10/2/2014, you wrote:
>> Hello all,
>> I have recently accepted a job offer at a community mental health 
>> agency. I went down today to test jaws with their electronic medical 
>> system. It turns out that their system is written in Java script. I 
>> believe cobalt and Java were also used. The problem is the jaws will 
>> read none of the screens on their electronic medical record system. 
>> My question: is there any screen reading software out there that 
>> will work with JavaScript? My other option is a reasonable 
>> accommodation is to ask for a reader scribe to help with reading 
>> electronic charts and documentation. Along the same lines, I know 
>> that sharp desk will extract text from images. Is there any kind of 
>> software that might be able to extract the text from the JavaScript 
>> screen or any kind of iPhone app I can read the screen with. I know 
>> I'll still need help documenting the least I could try to read the 
>> charts  that way.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Any help would be appreciated.
>> Thank you,
>> Beth Sent from my iPhone
> 
>         David Andrews and long white cane Harry.
> E-Mail:  dandrews at visi.com or david.andrews at nfbnet.org
> 
> 
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