[Mn-abs] {Spam?} Re: Freedom for the Blind

Kelby Carlson kelbycarlson at usfamily.net
Thu Jan 6 19:23:39 UTC 2011 

Thanks for the input!

I'm thinking specifically about a college campus.  I hope to be 
attending a college in Nashville, and I know I'll need to get 
oriented.  But a lot of people I know who have worked with 
instructors, and it takes them a really long time.  In Omvig's 
book, he seems to be saying that it is not necessary that this be 
the case.  So I'm really wondering about that.

How does one usually go about getting a tactile map? I might be 
able to find a regular one, but let's say I don't have my 
school's vision program (which I won't when I get older.) How do 
I get one then?

I really appreciate the advice that you've been given.  I'm 
excited to hopefully get linked with a mentor who can answer even 
more of my questions if I need them to.

> ----- Original Message -----
>From: Jordan Richardson <lilrichie411 at gmail.com
>To: Minnesota Association of Blind Students List 
<mn-abs at nfbnet.org
>Date sent: Thu, 06 Jan 2011 13:17:14 -0600 (CST)
>Subject: Re: [Mn-abs] Freedom for the Blind

>Kelby,
>First off, it is excellent to hear you thinking about this stuff.
>I, myself, use a long cane primarily, but usually carry a 
telescoping can in
>a bag when I travel just in case something happens to my long 
cane.  On an
>airplane, if I have a window seat, I put my can between the seat 
and the
>wall.  If I do not have a window seat, if there is someone there 
already, I
>politely ask them if  they could put it in that spot, or if no 
one is there
>I usually put it there myself.

>In regards to your second question, there are a number of things 
you can do
>to learn an area for the first time.  One thing I recommend you 
do is look
>at the bus and train routes/schedules.  It is good to do this 
early so that
>you know where you are going when you are on the bus or train.  
In
>conjunction with bus and train schedules, you should get or, at 
least look
>at, a map of the city.  It does help if you have friends or 
family in the
>area to show you the city.  Another thing that I do is explore 
the city,
>especially the area around me.

>Hope this helps!

>Jordan
>mabs president

>On 6 January 2011 12:37, jean Rauschenbach <rauschjc at gmail.com> 
wrote:

>> It is great if you have friends who can show you around.  A
>> good map is great as well.  Mobility instructors can't take
>> you everywhere.  If you can get a large print or tactile
>> map that would be great.  If you have some sight, use of a
>> CCTV has saved me a lot of trouble.
>> Jean

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: mn-abs-bounces at nfbnet.org
>> [mailto:mn-abs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kelby
>> Carlson
>>  Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 11:47 AM
>> To: Minnesota Association of Blind Students List
>> Subject: Re: [Mn-abs] Freedom for the Blind

>> I'm out of Woodbury.  And as I said, I just requested a
>> cane this
>> morning.  I'll try it, and I certainly hope it works well.
>> I'll
>> keq my folding cane as a backup in cases where it might be
>> needed
>> if I like the rigid cane.

>> Here's a somewhat related question that Freedom for the
>> Blind
>> brought to mind.  According to that book, it's not
>> necessary to
>> rely on state mobility when moving to a new location  If
>> so,
>> that's great news, but I always thought I would need it.
>> When
>> moving somewhere unfamiliar, how does one find there way
>> around
>> in the beginning?

>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "jean Rauschenbach" <rauschjc at gmail.com
>>>To: "'Minnesota Association of Blind Students List'"
>> <mn-abs at nfbnet.org
>>>Date sent: Thu, 06 Jan 2011 10:35:48 -0600 (CST)
>>>Subject: Re: [Mn-abs] Freedom for the Blind

>>>Hi Kelby,
>>>Where are you from?
>>>Jean Rauschenbach

>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: mn-abs-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>[mailto:mn-abs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kelby
>>>Carlson
>>>Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 9:36 PM
>>>To: Minnesota Association of Blind Students List
>>>Subject: Re: [Mn-abs] Freedom for the Blind

>>>Oh, okay! I've never thought of doing it that way before.
>>>But
>>>now that you say that, I'm almost positive it'll work.

>>>My mobility training hasn't come through the NFB (I
>>>haven't even
>>>really explored it until recently) so I haven't done some
>>>things
>>>that some on this list might.  I was just reading a
>> little
>>>bit
>>>about traveling in airports.  I'm flying to Tennessee in
>> a
>>>couple
>>>of weeks for a college audition.  My mother is coming
>> with
>>>me,
>>>but it'd be great if I could try to do at least some of
>> it

>>>independently.  Has anyone hear done it and can offer any
>>>suggestions?

>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>From: David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com
>>>>To: Minnesota Association of Blind Students List
>>><mn-abs at nfbnet.org
>>>>Date sent: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 21:20:26 -0600 (CST)
>>>>Subject: Re: [Mn-abs] Freedom for the Blind

>>>>For me, using a long white, straight cane is a
>>>preference, I find
>>>>them to be more reliable and better tools than folding
>> or

>>>telescoping
>>>>canes.  It does take a little practice in learning where
>>>to put
>>>it,
>>>>on planes I get a window seat and put it down between
>>>seat and
>>>>wall.  In cars, if in front seat, bring back end in
>> first
>>>towards
>>>>back seat and lay down between seat and door.  then
>> bring
>>>in
>>>front
>>>>end, make sure all in and shut door.  In back seat bring
>>>in tip
>>>end
>>>>first, and push forward between seat and door, until it
>>>lays
>>>>down.  Hope that makes sense.

>>>>Dave

>>>>At 05:56 PM 1/5/2011, you wrote:
>>>>>I was wondering if anyone else on this list has read
>>>Freedom for
>>>the
>>>>>Blind by James Omvig.  I am reading it now, and find
>>>much of what
>>>it
>>>>>says very good; he articulates many things I have
>>>believed my
>>>entire
>>>>>life and values my parents raised me with.

>>>>>I'm almost to the section on the long white cane, and I
>>>have
>>>>>wondered about this for some time.  I understand the
>>>emotional
>>>power
>>>>>of using a long cane and the statement it makes, but it
>>>seems
>>>less
>>>>>than necessary from a pragmatic standpoint.  I prefer
>> to
>>>have a
>>>cane
>>>>>that is able to fold not because I want to hide my
>>>blindness, but
>>>>>simply for convenience.  I'm rather tall, so having a
>>>long cane
>>>that
>>>>>can't fold would make it very difficult to travel in
>>>cars, at
>>>least
>>>>>I'm assuming so.  (I can't imagine the fits airlines
>>>could have
>>>over
>>>>>this.) Does anyone have experience with this? I'm
>> trying
>>>to
>>>explore
>>>>>options right now.  I want to get more involved with
>> the
>>>larger
>>>>>blind community and I'm fast approaching college.  Any
>>>discussion
>>>on
>>>>>this would be awesome.




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>>>elbycarl
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>Jordan Richardson
>President, Minnesota Association of Blind Students
>lilrichie411 at gmail.com
>“It is very important to generate a good attitude, a good heart, 
as much as
>possible.  From this, happiness in both the short term and the 
long term for
>both yourself and others will come.”
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