[nabs-l] accomodations in public school

[Franandah Damstra]

Hm...I never knew that. I should check this out...Thank you for the information.

On 11/12/08, Sydney Walker Freedman <freedmas at stolaf.edu> wrote:
> Bookshare is *free* for students.  :)  So, you should give it a try.
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> On 11/11/08, Hope Paulos <hope.paulos at maine.edu> wrote:
>> Serena is correct. You can get free bookshare accounts if you're a
>> student.
>> Go to the website and it will explain everything. I have one and it was
>> real
>> easy to obtain.
>>
>> Hope and Beignet
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org]On
>> Behalf Of Serena
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 4:21 PM
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] accomodations in public school
>>
>>
>> I actually don't think that's true.  I think you can get it for free cause
>> you're a student.  Look for an email from me to the NABS list with
>> information about Bookshare.  I sent it last night or the night before.
>>
>> Serena
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Franandah Damstra" <fantasyfanatic01 at gmail.com>
>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 3:52 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] accomodations in public school
>>
>>
>>> Well, I've looked at bookshare, and you have to pay for a membership.
>>> Its quite expensive so I couldn't use it even if I wanted to.
>>>
>>> On 11/10/08, Linda Stover <liamskitten at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Serena,
>>>>
>>>> I can see this applying to the books on the bookshare site.  However,
>>>> I'm not sure if the books requested are brailled as well as scanned.
>>>> In essence, I'm not sure that the free scanning of said books would
>>>> carry over to ordering a free braille copy.  For anyone interested in
>>>> a hard copy of a school-related book, this would be an interesting
>>>> question to ask.
>>>> Courtney
>>>>
>>>> On 11/10/08, Serena <serenacucco at verizon.net> wrote:
>>>>> Hi Cortney and others
>>>>>
>>>>> Now, Bookshare does Braille books for free!  Here's info from Allyson
>>>>> Hillicker.  Some of you may know her from various things, including
>>>>> Louisiana Center for the Blind.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bookshare will take book requests from college
>>>>>>>students in addition to K-12 students.  We work to fulfill all
>>>>>>> textbook
>>>>>>>requests as well as other books that one needs for school.  As to
>>>>>>>non-school
>>>>>>>books we will fill requests on a case-by-case basis.  We give priority
>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>non school related books that seem to have an educational benefit.
>>>>>>> You
>>>>>>>may
>>>>>>>send book requests to me at allisonh at benetech.org or Carrie Karnos at
>>>>>>>carriek at benetech.org.  We both process requests, but Carrie does the
>>>>>>>actual
>>>>>>>scanning.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Any print disabled student, parent, teacher, or individual working
>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>disabled students may request a book from Bookshare.org.  In order to
>>>>>>>download our books however, one must sign up for a Bookshare.org
>>>>>>>membership.
>>>>>>>Memberships are completely free to print disabled students at all
>>>>>>>educational levels.  Schools or groups serving disabled students may
>>>>>>>also
>>>>>>>sign up for free group memberships.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>To sign up, one can visit the following links-
>>>>>>>Individual memberships
>>>>>>>http://www.bookshare.org/web/AboutIndividualSubscriptions.html
>>>>>>>School or group memberships
>>>>>>>https://www.bookshare.org/web/MembersOrganizationJoinForm.html?join=Cre
>> ate+a+School+or+Group+Account
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>If you have specific questions about signup, please E-mail
>>>>>>>Mandy Throckmorton at mandyt at benetech.org.
>>>>>
>>>>> Serena
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>---- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Linda Stover" <liamskitten at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 7:43 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] accomodations in public school
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello listers,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Serena and several others broached this question, especially in
>>>>>> connection to Franendiah, so I'll try and answer this the best I can.
>>>>>> No, the books are not brailled free of charge, or at least, they were
>>>>>> not the last time I checked.  On the information page for each book,
>>>>>> there is a link for ordering embossed copies of that book.  When you
>>>>>> click, it gives you pricing and shipping info.  It would be nice if it
>>>>>> were free *smile*
>>>>>> Courtney
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11/10/08, Antonio Guimaraes <aguimaraes at nbp.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> Hello Serena,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Do you mean bookshare will braille books for you? Or, they will
>>>>>>> braille
>>>>>>> books for you at a charge?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I work in the braille book area, and we can't and don't go on handing
>>>>>>> braille books for free to schools, students, etc. After all, our
>>>>>>> transcribers, proofreaders and administrative people make a good
>>>>>>> living
>>>>>>> producing much needed, good quality braille.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If Book Share is able to braille books free of charge, I'd be
>>>>>>> interested
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> know.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Antonio Guimaraes
>>>>>>> National Braille Press
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Serena" <serenacucco at verizon.net>
>>>>>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2008 3:45 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] accomodations in public school
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you have a subscription to Bookshare, bookshare will Braille
>>>>>>>> books
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> you.  In case you don't know what bookshare is, it's a service where
>>>>>>>> books
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> get scanned and then put on the websight.  They have textbooks and
>>>>>>>> pleasure books.  The websight is www.bookshare.org.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Serena
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>> From: "Franandah Damstra" <fantasyfanatic01 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>>>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2008 10:04 PM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] accomodations in public school
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yeah, I've tried talking to people and all they say is "As long as
>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>> have sight, you need to use it." So, I can't get any braille. The
>>>>>>>>> thing is, our family just doesn't have the money to pay for it
>>>>>>>>> ourselves! Is there a way to get books in braille outside of public
>>>>>>>>> school services? Is there a way that I can prove that I "need
>>>>>>>>> braille"? I'm just so beyond frustrated with both my school and my
>>>>>>>>> parents. All my parents are thinking of is having a 'good Christian
>>>>>>>>> education and informant." But, they never though of  what it would
>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>> like for a child with a disability. I'm not understanding material,
>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>> have no friends, I get mocked, and I get up every morning crying
>>>>>>>>> because I don't' want to go back to school. My parents just say
>>>>>>>>> "Oh,
>>>>>>>>> your being so over dramatic! It's really not all that bad! Maybe if
>>>>>>>>> you were positive about school it would to better for you!" It
>>>>>>>>> doesn't
>>>>>>>>> work that way though. I'm struggling so much and my parents just
>>>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>>> think I am working hard enough. How can you work harder than your
>>>>>>>>> best? How do you react? What do you do? I mean, Ive threatened to
>>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>> drop out and leave I'm no unhappy, they don't care. I've already
>>>>>>>>> told
>>>>>>>>> them I'm not going to collage. How could I? My high school
>>>>>>>>> experience
>>>>>>>>> is so bad that I know I just can't go on. What do I do?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 11/8/08, Rachel Becker <Rachel at beckerconsultants.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> I know someone who went to private school in Philadelphia and went
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> private school and he got Braille services. He's totally blind.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org]On
>>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of Sydney Walker Freedman
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2008 12:42 AM
>>>>>>>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] accomodations in public school
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> oh that's terrible!  The issue here is that private schools don't
>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>> their own vision staff, braille transcribers, equipment, etc. and
>>>>>>>>>> don't have access to the staff, equipment, etc. from public
>>>>>>>>>> schools
>>>>>>>>>> (at least this was true for Arizona).  However, thre should be
>>>>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>>>>> way to still get services.  For example, a good friend of mine
>>>>>>>>>> went
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> a private school but received Braille services and time with a
>>>>>>>>>> vision
>>>>>>>>>> teacher through the public school where I went.  Another thought
>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> talk to the people at your school and tell them what you are going
>>>>>>>>>> through and that you *need* braille.  If they aren't willing to do
>>>>>>>>>> something or to find a way to get something done, then, well, they
>>>>>>>>>> aren't doing their Christian duty, as it were.  I can understand a
>>>>>>>>>> school not having money or resources, but in that case, effort and
>>>>>>>>>> research can do a lot.  Good luck!  Feel free to e-mail me off
>>>>>>>>>> list.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Pax Christi,
>>>>>>>>>> Sydney
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 11/5/08, Franandiah Damstra <fantasyfanatic01 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Hello everyone. I'm new here and I just want to say, YOU ALL ARE
>>>>>>>>>>> LUCKY! I go to a very small christian private schools, and I get
>>>>>>>>>>> nothing! I get "enlarged" assignments and extended tests, but
>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>> about it. Though I know braille, nobody will provide it for me.
>>>>>>>>>>> My
>>>>>>>>>>> sight is 20/800. I am colour blind, I don't have either preferal
>>>>>>>>>>> vision or depth perseption and yet all I ever hear is "Oh, you
>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>> some sight so use it!" So consider yourselves VERY lucky. I would
>>>>>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>>>>> anything to get braille books. I can't read this print much
>>>>>>>>>>> longer,
>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>> go home crying because my eyes are burning so badly. You all are
>>>>>>>>>>> luckier than you know.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/4/08, hannah <sparklylicious at suddenlink.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> All of my materials are brailled or on audio, but I don't get
>>>>>>>>>>>> extra time on tests...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>From: "Rania" <raniaismail04 at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>>>>>>>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 16:34:38 -0500
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [nabs-l] accomodations in public school
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>I had braille extra time on tests my books and hand outs were
>>>>>>>>>>>> also brailled.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Rania,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>>>>>>>>>>><nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 3:05 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Subject: [nabs-l] accomodations in public school
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm asking this for a class as well as to compare my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> experience
>>>>>>>>>>>> to yours.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I had pretty decent services.  I got braille and audio books
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>> my TVI
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was good at giving braille handouts and I got extra time on
>>>>>>>>>>>> tests.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As we have discussed before, I struggled fitting in socially
>>>>>>>>>>>> though.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In my psychology of individuals with disabilities class, I was
>>>>>>>>>>>> asked to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> present about visual impairment and accomodations and other
>>>>>>>>>>>> academic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> impact.  So my questions.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1.  What accomodations did you use?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2.  Were they effective? If you used print you may have been
>>>>>>>>>>>> more effective
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with braille.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3.  What should have been done that was not?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Common accomodations I can think of are: large print or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> braille
>>>>>>>>>>>> handouts,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> audio texts, and extended time on tests.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ashley
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