[nabs-l] Training: As needed, or all at once?

Wed May 13 17:48:42 UTC 2009

Jess,

You don't adapt quickly to the light changes then?  I follow.  I seem 
to adapt pretty quick unless I've been in white-out light (best 
description I can come up with) for about twenty minutes.  Then I 
just don't see anything for about three minutes.  A bus doesn't do 
that to me, only the sun.

I don't wear glasses either.  Coke bottles that are useless for 
anything but a terrible headache.  No thank you.

Joseph

On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 06:36:03AM -0400, Jess wrote:
>Joseph,
>I just have a harder time seeing at night. Also, too when we ride the bus in 
>the evening or night time the stop we get off at isn't lit at all. So in 
>turn that makes the bus stop very dark. The bus stop is also by the side of 
>a grocery store as well.  Although I'm extremely photophobic during the day 
>I get used after a while to being out in the sun. I also do use a cane a bit 
>more often now since I made the decision not to wear regular glasses because 
>I found that they really weren't helping me out. Actually, I had known that 
>pretty much since I was about in the sixth or seventh grade that they 
>weren't really working for me. I didn't at the time really know how to tell 
>the eye doctor that the glasses weren't working for me. In fact the second 
>to the last pair I got here in New York State the Optometrist finally when I 
>went back for my last two year check up with her she told me she accidently 
>over corrected them to much. I do wear prescription sunglasses though when I 
>remember to take them with me.
>Jessica
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "T. Joseph Carter" <carter.tjoseph at gmail.com>
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>Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Training: As needed, or all at once?
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>> Jess,
>>
>> It's unfortunate that you didn't have O&M under sleepshade.  You really 
>> learn to pay attention doing it that way, especially if you have someone 
>> pointing out the things blocks away that you should be hearing.
>>
>> You have more trouble at night?  Why's that, headlights?
>>
>> Joseph
>>
>>
>> On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 07:18:15PM -0400, Jess wrote:
>>>Ashley and Jim.
>>>I've attended a state run training center in Utah in 2001 and although I 
>>>have significant usable vision to where I'm considered legally blind I did 
>>>have to wear a blindfold in at at least one of the classes that I took. It 
>>>was the Adaptive Daily Living Skills  because the instructor was trying to 
>>>make it a level playing field for the totally blind people in the group. I 
>>>also got out of doing O&M because I basically told them that I didn't need 
>>>it during the day which was the time that it was being done. I also said 
>>>to them I need  O&ME training more at night because that's when I have a 
>>>harder time traveling. The only other time I was forced to use the 
>>>blindfold was in a Braille class. Pretty much all the other classes I 
>>>didn't have to use the blindfold. Now, a Staunchly NFB member is now in 
>>>charge of running the training program.  I know the person who runs it now 
>>>because he was one of the assistive technology trainers at the center.
>>>Jessica
>>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>>From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
>>>To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" 
>>><nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 6:03 PM
>>>Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Training: As needed, or all at once?
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi Jim,
>>>>
>>>> This is my opinion and  I will be in the minority and hope not to be 
>>>> attacked.  If your vision is stable and you
>>>> can function well with print and other visual skills, then don't do 
>>>> training now.  Yes its a lot of time  and effort on your part to learn 
>>>> skills you'll likely never need.
>>>>
>>>> Some visually impaired people I know never learn braille and they do 
>>>> well; they are successful at work.
>>>>
>>>> NFB centers imerse you in nonvisual skills and you are blindfolded. 
>>>> Does your state offer a state rehab center?  Often state centers allow 
>>>> you to use low vision techniques and use nonvisual ones as needed.  What 
>>>> state do you live in?  You may consider a state center where you can 
>>>> choose what you need rather than a nfb center first.
>>>> So I think if your vision is stable there is no need to go for blindness 
>>>> training now.  I commend your decission to learn to use a cane. Many 
>>>> high partials like yourself never try it.  Learning and using a cane 
>>>> will not only help you travel better but it will identify your visual 
>>>> impairment and eliminate the need to explain sometimes.  I have usable 
>>>> vision although not as much as you.  We both have tunnel vision.  So 
>>>> I've always used visual and nonvisual techniques to function.
>>>>
>>>> Ashley
>>>>
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