[nabs-l] handicaped parking

Ashley Bramlett bookwormahb at earthlink.net
Tue May 19 23:43:50 UTC 2009


Joseph, how do you subscribe to that list?  Is it run by nfb?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "T. Joseph Carter" <carter.tjoseph at gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [nabs-l] handicaped parking


> We have that list.  It's blind-talk.  Actually, it's "blindtlk", because 
> Dave's never bothered with the considerable effort needed to rename it. 
> Creating the new list, moving archives over, moving subscribers over, 
> setting up aliases to make the old list name work for people who are 
> unaware of the change, etc.
>
> Joseph
>
>
> On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 01:41:17PM -0700, William ODonnell wrote:
>>
>>I think the Nabbs list could be used for more productive topics related to 
>>students, colleges and univercities, legal issues with higher education; 
>>not, issues concerning parks, passes, and "freebees."  I understand each 
>>one of us look for outlets and spaces to vent; however, we can maybe set 
>>up a special list for issues with dailly discussions with special topics 
>>in a "random" list.  It could be in-titled: random 
>>thoughts/discussions at nfbnet.org or something elce.
>>
>>.
>>
>>
>>--- On Mon, 5/18/09, Jim Reed <jim275_2 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> From: Jim Reed <jim275_2 at yahoo.com>
>>> Subject: [nabs-l] handicaped parking
>>> To: "NABS mail list" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> Date: Monday, May 18, 2009, 1:50 PM
>>> Courtney,
>>>
>>> How many people on this list have ever been to a national
>>> park? How many go on a regular basis? When was the last time
>>> you went to a national park?
>>>
>>> The answer to those questions is why the NPS provides a
>>> free disability pass. As I said yeasterday, the purpose of
>>> the NPS pass is to encoueage disabled persons to use the
>>> parks. Think about it, if a disabled person has enough money
>>> to go on vacation to visit a national park, clearly they
>>> have the ability to afford a $25 park entrance fee.
>>> Therefore, what would be the point of providing a pass if it
>>> was not for the purposes of encouraging disabled persons to
>>> use the national parks?
>>>
>>> Or, think of it in another context. Consider the First-time
>>> home buyer's tax credit. Are first time home buyers so broke
>>> that the governemt must target them for a tax break, or is
>>> the purpose of the first time home buyer's tax credit to
>>> incourage first time home buyers to buy that first home?
>>>
>>> Jim
>>>
>>> Jim
>>> Jim,
>>>
>>> Here's where I disagree. Why would a disabled person
>>> necessarily
>>> require a pass to utalize the park service? In other
>>> words, does the
>>> rationale still come down to the fact that we are too poor
>>> to pay the
>>> required fee? If it doesn't, I really would be interested
>>> in what the
>>> rationale is for giving us free passes. Why are we a
>>> minority they
>>> want to recruit, even going to the expense/loss of revenue
>>> of offering
>>> free passes?
>>> Courtney
>>>
>>> Homer Simpson's brain: "Use reverse psychology." Homer: "Oh, that sounds 
>>> too complicated." Homer's brain: "Okay, don't use reverse psychology."
>>>  Homer: "Okay, I will!"
>>>
>>>
>>>
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