[nabs-l] negative traffic

[Aziza C]

Exactly.

On 5/20/09, Ashley  Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
> Where is the proof the ACB president really said these things?  I'd like to
> read up on it.  It just doesn't sound right.
>
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>>O yay, so first we're the cause of the origon audit, second we  shouldn't
>>exist, thard we're on the wrong side of about every issue,  and finally...
>>We're probably operating illegally?  What the hell is  the matter with the
>>guy running things over there as the president?  I  think we should go
>>ahead and not even mess with the ACB untill they  get a president who
>>actually doesn't want to slander us for no damned  reason other than to
>>frther their own agenda!On May 19, 2009, at 12:23  PM, T. Joseph Carter
>>wrote:
>>
>>> Sarah, would you honestly like me to forward the hate and rage that  was
>>> directed at me while I was on their list?  I've got hundreds of  messages
>>>
>>> collected in just a few weeks.
>>>
>>> According to the current, sitting ACB president, the NFB is not a
>>> consumer organization.  It is a rehabilitation agency and sales
>>> organization fraudulently pretending to be consumer driven.  It is  on
>>> the wrong side of just about every issue, because being on the  right
>>> side hurts its profits.  It should not exist, and is probably  operating
>>> illegally.
>>>
>>> We call that a non-starter.
>>>
>>> Joseph
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 07:30:23AM -0400, Sarah J. Blake wrote:
>>>> Joseph,
>>>>
>>>> I regularly attend ACB conventions and would take exception to  your
>>>> assertion that 3/4 of ACB traffic is negative toward  anything. That is
>>>> a  pretty negative statement in itself. I wasn't  going to comment on
>>>> it; bt  this is the kind of un-constructive  comment that prevents
>>>> dialogue. I see a lot of NFB members emailing  with the signature, "We
>>>> must be the change we wish to see in the  world..." Why not put it into
>>>> practice...? Then again, maybe the  division doesn't bother you. If you
>>>> like it, put it in positive  words for us. I disagree with Arielle's
>>>> points, but I appreciated  her positive spin on the benefits of having
>>>> two organiations.
>>>>
>>>> In reality, whenever you put thousands of people together, many of  whom
>>>>
>>>> are over 55, there will likely be a good deal of negative  energy unless
>>>>
>>>> there is a concerted effort to build positive energy.  The very nature
>>>> of dealing with blindness issues is that some  negative energy must be
>>>> dealt with. Regardless of how many  blindness skills we have, how many
>>>> gadgets we have to enable us to  do xxx, or how accessible the
>>>> environment is, things will take  longer and be more cumbersome and we
>>>> will always battle negative  attitudes; and it is a pain in the behind.
>>>> Part of what happens at  conventions is that people realize, "Hey,
>>>> someone gets it." Part of  what happens is that someone will confront
>>>> someone about the fact  that they need to grow up and stop being such a
>>>> whiner because we  all live this. Part of what happens is that we
>>>> wrangle about what  on earth to advocate for--and we can't agree because
>>>>
>>>> despite having  blindness in common, we all cope just a bit differently.
>>>>
>>>> It does  create negative energy, regardless of which organization a
>>>> person  belongs to. I suspect there is negative energy in every advocacy
>>>>
>>>> organization in existence. In fact, I took a leadership course this
>>>> spring in which there were only six participants. We did mock
>>>> controversies; and you would be amazed at the negative energy that  was
>>>> generated!
>>>>
>>>> Sarah J. Blake
>>>> Personal email: sjblake at growingstrong.org
>>>> http://www.growingstrong.org
>>>>
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