[nabs-l] Have any of you taken the LSATS?

Mark J. Cadigan kramc11 at gmail.com
Sun Nov 21 15:20:51 UTC 2010


If anyone is looking to go to school in MA and has any questions, I am the 
secretary of the Massachusetts Association of Blind Students (MassABS). you 
can send me an email off list at kramc11 at gmail.com and I can attempt to 
answer any questions you may have or put you in contact with someone with 
the answers.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Justin Young" <jty727 at gmail.com>
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Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2010 12:37 AM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Have any of you taken the LSATS?


> Well, the ones which I recall are Syracus University which has a
> Disabilities Studies program which includes the legal side as well in
> their Law school.  There is also Albany Law School, University of
> Buffalo and Cornell which have them.  Cornell is a good one because
> they have the Northeastern Center for ADA stuff which is basically an
> ADA resource center.  If I were to stay instate it would be either
> Syracus or Albany.  I've also been looking at ones in Mass because I
> love the Boston area.
>
> On 11/20/10, Jorge Paez <jorgeapaez at mac.com> wrote:
>> Justin:
>> Just wondering,
>> what schools have you seen in New York who offer this program? Because 
>> I'm
>> thinking of going into that field too.
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Jorge
>>
>>
>>
>> On Nov 20, 2010, at 11:13 PM, Justin Young wrote:
>>
>>> Yes Joe I've always been told I ask the good questions.  Haha.  I've
>>> decided I really want to go into Disability law dealing with like
>>> SSI/SSDI and like ADA Compliance stuff.  I've been looking into
>>> schools which offer this both in New York and other places.  Are they
>>> study books or whatever you call them which get you a good sense of
>>> what they are actually like?
>>>
>>> On 11/20/10, Joe Orozco <jsorozco at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Justin,
>>>>
>>>> In my case, I was not in the financial position to afford the Kaplan
>>>> courses
>>>> or similar structured review sessions.  Rather, I had someone Braille
>>>> about
>>>> ten different previously administered exams.  I did the first couple at 
>>>> a
>>>> casual pace to get myself oriented with the layout, and then I began
>>>> timing
>>>> myself section by section until I finally began timing myself taking 
>>>> the
>>>> whole thing.  I bought the three Power Score Bibles, and as far as
>>>> commercial material goes, the material packed some really good 
>>>> practical
>>>> advice.  I joined a list-serve of students planning on taking the exam 
>>>> at
>>>> the same time I was, and the support was great.  I took the December
>>>> exam,
>>>> which put me at a distinct disadvantage in terms of early applications.
>>>> I've heard it told that June administrations are the most difficult
>>>> because
>>>> they see the highest number of test takers, but the exam is what it is 
>>>> no
>>>> matter when you take it.  Like Dennis, I believe the LSAT is a one-shot
>>>> deal.  You can take it twice, but the exam requires a level of 
>>>> investment
>>>> that should deliver the results you want the first time around, which
>>>> leads
>>>> me to perhaps the best advice I can offer.  Make sure law is what you
>>>> really
>>>> want to do for a living.  In my case, I felt that a love of debate and 
>>>> an
>>>> enjoyment of critical thinking were sufficient grounds to be a lawyer.
>>>> Also, it didn't hurt that this is what my father's been expecting me to
>>>> do
>>>> for many years, but the more I studied for the LSAT and the more I read
>>>> up
>>>> about the law school experiences on websites like Top-Law-Schools.com,
>>>> the
>>>> more I realized law was not quite the area where I saw myself in 
>>>> fifteen
>>>> years.  In fact, I went through a brief period where I felt completely
>>>> stupid for pursuing public administration and public policy in my
>>>> undergraduate and graduate studies, because public relations and
>>>> marketing
>>>> is really where I feel I perform at my peak.  I love commercials and
>>>> media
>>>> campaigns, and although I would never pass up the opportunity to try to
>>>> protect the rights of the vulnerable, I feel I can still do that 
>>>> without
>>>> taking on the enormous sacrifice of law school.  Also, I think Grisham
>>>> scared me away. LOL  In terms of accommodations, I requested extra 
>>>> time,
>>>> a
>>>> Braille writer for the logic problems, a laptop for the writing section
>>>> and
>>>> a reader/scribe.  Honestly, despite these accommodations, which was an
>>>> experience in patience in of itself, the greater thing I would have
>>>> practiced more is striking a better balance between what sections were
>>>> better for me to read for myself in Braille and what sections I would
>>>> have
>>>> relied on my reader to convey to me.  After taking the exam I learned
>>>> other
>>>> people were requesting double time instead of what I thought of as the
>>>> traditional time and a half.  Maybe that would have helped me, but I
>>>> still
>>>> feel that it's good to use your simulated exams to take into account 
>>>> all
>>>> the
>>>> various methods you can use to pass the exam with a good score. 
>>>> Another
>>>> guy
>>>> I know who's on this list shared with me his idea of using spreadsheets
>>>> as
>>>> part of the logic games, and I think the idea is quite brilliant and 
>>>> one
>>>> I
>>>> wish I would have thought of myself.  Ultimately, try to figure out 
>>>> what
>>>> law
>>>> you want to practice and the schools that offer that program.  The LSAT
>>>> is
>>>> important no matter where you go, but you don't have to attend a great
>>>> law
>>>> school to be a great lawyer.  Some schools really will take a
>>>> well-rounded
>>>> approach to evaluating your application, and studying for the exam 
>>>> should
>>>> not replace the all-too-important task of getting some professional
>>>> experience after college and obtaining some leadership positions in
>>>> community activities.  My LSAT score is good for another four years if 
>>>> I
>>>> change my mind, which is part of the beauty of getting the exam out of
>>>> the
>>>> way.  Take it seriously but don't let it dominate you.  I wish you all
>>>> the
>>>> best of luck.  You're asking questions, and that's one good way to get
>>>> yourself prepared for the road ahead.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> Joe
>>>>
>>>> "Hard work spotlights the character of people: some turn up their
>>>> sleeves,
>>>> some turn up their noses, and some don't turn up at all."--Sam Ewing
>>>>
>>>>
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