[nabs-l] Finding Your Way Indoors

Darrell Shandrow darrell.shandrow at gmail.com
Tue Oct 12 02:09:01 UTC 2010


Hello Joe,

I'm not necessarily sure we should automatically assume these apps can't 
help us right now. We obviously can't read maps, but there might be 
enough text to make them useful.

Has anyone tried the three apps mentioned in the article yet? If so, 
please consider visiting http://applevis.com and telling the blind 
iDevice user community about them.

Regards,

Darrell


On 10/11/2010 6:51 PM, Joe Orozco wrote:
> For iPhone and Android enthusiasts.  If we could reach out to the developers
> to make sure these apps talk, we'd be in business.--Joe
>
> Finding Your Way Through the Mall or the Airport, With a Cellphone Map
>
> Laura Pedrick for The New York Times
> FastMall offers a floor plan and can search for stores and plot a path
> there. Shaking the phone will show the nearest restroom.
>
> By VERNE G. KOPYTOFF
> Published: October 10, 2010
>
>
> SAN FRANCISCO - Mobile phone maps have guided people through streets and
> alleys around the globe. But when those people step into a sprawling
> building, they can get lost.
>
> Inside, people have to ask strangers for directions or search for a
> directory or wall map. A number of start-up companies are charting the
> interiors of shopping malls, convention centers and airports to keep mobile
> phone users from getting lost as they walk from the food court to the
> restroom. Some of their maps might even be able to locate cans of sardines
> in a sprawling grocery store.
>
> "It was my wife's idea - she was six months' pregnant and she couldn't find
> a restroom," said Sam G. Feuer, chief executive of MindSmack, the New York
> company behind FastMall, one of the indoor mapping services. "It's the same
> thing for people in wheelchairs or with strollers who need an elevator."
>
> Users see a floor plan of a shopping mall, for example, with stores
> indicated by name. Escalators, exits, restrooms and elevators are also
> marked.
>
> FastMall has a search engine to help users find stores on its maps. Enter
> "Banana Republic" and the service places a pin on the map to show the
> store's location. Tap the "take me there" button and the service plots a
> route to the destination. To find the nearest restroom, all users have to do
> is shake their phone.
>
> Most of the indoor mapping apps are free, like PointInside, FastMall and
> Micello, which work on the iPhone, iPod Touch and iPad. PointInside is also
> available for many Android phones.
>
> Because mobile Internet connections are sometimes difficult to make indoors,
> some of the services download their maps onto users' phones when they first
> check in on the service. If the connection later fails, the user still has
> access to the map.
>
> The various mapping services differ in how they obtain their maps. Some get
> them from mall management companies or mall developers. Others use maps that
> are already available online or they copy ones posted on mall directories
> (sometimes by taking photographs of them or by encouraging their users do
> so).
>
> In almost all cases, the services have to customize the maps to fit a
> standard size and font and to fill in any missing information.
>
> Ankit Agarwal, chief executive of Micello, an indoor mapping service based
> in Sunnyvale, Calif., has created a library of nearly 2,000 maps, most of
> them of American shopping malls. He said his team could recreate a mall
> floor plan in a couple of hours, based on originals that they find in the
> public domain.
>
> "We never have to visit the place," Mr. Agarwal said. No malls have
> complained, he added.
>
> Inevitably, maps become outdated as stores close and new ones replace them.
> Since the mapmakers cannot possibly keep visiting each one, they rely on
> users to tell them that a map needs to be updated.
>
> Dan Jasper, a spokesman for Mall of America in Bloomington, Minn., said his
> mall - the biggest in the United States, with 520 stores - is working on its
> own mobile phone app so shoppers will have a more reliable floor plan. He
> thinks it is an important tool that could increase sales and traffic.
>
> For now, shopping malls are getting the most attention from indoor
> mapmakers, although many of them hope to add casinos, stadiums, universities
> and hospitals - anything big enough to get lost in and that draws big
> crowds. They are also interested in outdoor destinations like theme parks,
> zoos and urban shopping districts. Rodeo Drive in Beverly Hills, Calif., is
> already available on FastMall, for instance.
>
> In some cases, Micello's maps show details beyond the basic four walls. A
> map of the Ikea store in East Palo Alto, Calif., features an aisle winding
> through the store and the locations of departments like "children's" and
> "closet systems."
>
> Aisle411, a mobile service that is set to start next month, is hoping to
> take the detail even further by allowing users to find individual products
> inside stores. Shoppers in a grocery store can search for "capers," for
> instance, and then get a map to the appropriate aisle.
>
> Nathan M. Pettyjohn, chief executive of Aisle411, based in St. Louis, said
> retailers lose a large number of customers because shoppers cannot find what
> they want. The problem is compounded for big-box retailers, whose vast
> stores seem built to create frustration.
>
> Aisle411 has worked with a few retail chains and has created maps with their
> help. For other stores, the company is relying on publicly available maps,
> some guess work and volunteers to indicate where products are located. "We
> get about 90 percent accuracy," Mr. Pettyjohn said.
>
> Given the early stages of indoor mapping, its business model is still a work
> in progress. Location-based advertising and coupons are one possibility, as
> is charging malls to create their floor plans. Some companies have tried
> licensing maps to other companies. Still others are considering selling user
> data to retailers and product manufacturers.
>
> Despite the miniboom in indoor mapping, Vikrant Gandhi, an analyst with
> Frost&  Sullivan, said the niche faced challenges. Mobile marketing, the
> most common idea for making money, has yet to prove itself, he said.
>
> Google, with its dominant Google Maps, worries some in the industry. Google
> could crush the tiny indoor mapmakers by creating its own competing service.
> But it is just as likely that it could be a savior by buying one or more
> companies or licensing their data. A Google spokeswoman declined to comment.
>
>
> Mr. Agarwal, from Micello, said he was just excited by the prospect of all
> that remained to be mapped indoors. Speaking about his service last month at
> a mobile phone conference at the University of California, San Francisco, he
> looked out the window and declared, "I want to map every building on this
> campus."
>
> A version of this article appeared in print on October 11, 2010, on page B3
> of the New York edition.
>
>
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