[nabs-l] lions world

Jorge Paez jorgeapaez at mac.com
Sat Feb 12 05:08:14 UTC 2011


What about possibly doing something in NYC?


On Feb 11, 2011, at 11:54 PM, Joshua Lester wrote:

> It takes alot of time, and money, but it will be worth it. I'm not
> going to Rustin, LA, because I don't know of any Apostolic Pentecostal
> churches in that area. How far is Alexandria from there? Blessings,
> Joshua
> 
> On 2/11/11, RJ Sandefur <joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Do you have any idea what this would involv? RJs
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Joshua Lester" <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 11:30 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] lions world
>> 
>> 
>>> Mr. Andrews, there are plenty of blind people in Arkansas, for us,
>>> (the NFB,) to start a center. What's the holdup? I'll E-mail our new
>>> state president, and we'll raise money for this.
>>> Blessings, Joshua
>>> 
>>> On 2/11/11, David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com> wrote:
>>>> Because they view us as blind persons as being very limited and they
>>>> must take care of and watch out for us.  This is in part why we, in
>>>> the NFB, started our own Centers.
>>>> 
>>>> Dave
>>>> 
>>>> At 06:00 PM 2/11/2011, you wrote:
>>>>> Why did Lyons World have a curfew and make everyone relinquish
>>>>> medications? That is dumbing really independent blind adults down to
>>>>> babys in my opinion!
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joshua Lester"
>>>>> <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
>>>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 4:36 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] lions world
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> lolololol! The food is horible! It's always warm in the dorm rooms.
>>>>>> Yes, there's a curfue. Everyone has to relinquish their meds. The
>>>>>> piano in the salarium, (I'm a musician,) is out of tune. I hate old,
>>>>>> out-of-tune pianos! Someone kept breaking the rules. He smoked in his
>>>>>> dorm room. I didn't have a choice on whether I wanted a room mate or
>>>>>> not. I couldn't stand him, because he was always bragging about how
>>>>>> much alcohol he could consume. I went for an evaluation, in 2007. I
>>>>>> haven't attended a training center. I've received the mobility skills
>>>>>> in school, and received my endependent living skills at LWSB. I only
>>>>>> stayed 4 weeks. That's hw long an evaluation lasts. I made some
>>>>>> friends, but some of them, (including my room mate,) were nothing but
>>>>>> trouble. There are other places where he can get training without
>>>>>> going to that place. O yeah, and too many of the trainees, allowed
>>>>>> their guide dogs to run loose. I'm allergic to dogs.
>>>>>> Blessings, Joshua
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 2/11/11, bookwormahb at earthlink.net <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> Joshua,
>>>>>>> I told Josh that on the other nabs list, the one belonging to ACB; I
>>>>>>> told
>>>>>>> him to think through it, think about the rules and if he'd like to
>>>>>>> abide
>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>> such restrictions.  It didn't work.
>>>>>>> Josh has already been to a nfb center; now he wants to get a
>>>>>>> certification;
>>>>>>> so perhaps he's willing to stay confined at LWSB to get that training.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Joshua, what program did you attend and did you go to another training
>>>>>>> center afterward?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> But do they really have a lights out rule?  Do they really have a
>>>>>>> curphew
>>>>>>> where you got to be in your room?
>>>>>>> I know they got dorms and roommates. They don't have apartments.
>>>>>>> Someone
>>>>>>> told me from Nabs ACB list that the food was not too good; it was
>>>>>>> mostly
>>>>>>> fried food which is very unhealthy.
>>>>>>> As to nurses, I can understand that if a blind person cannot identify
>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>> meds; I mean some newly blind people cannot read braille or print and
>>>>>>> cannot
>>>>>>> know what meds they have in what bottle!
>>>>>>> But some blind people have the skills already to take their meds.
>>>>>>> However, is this an individual thing?  Does everyone have to relinquish
>>>>>>> their meds, or just the ones who cannot take it independently yet?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On their website it says you have to agree to relocate after the
>>>>>>> program.
>>>>>>> That sounds terrible for the reasons you stated. If you don't have
>>>>>>> friends
>>>>>>> or family down in say Georga, then why move there?
>>>>>>> Maybe so LWSB doesn't hear from you again.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Ashley
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: Joshua Lester
>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 4:04 PM
>>>>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] lions world
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> In Little Rock, Arkansas? I attended there for 4 weeks. That is one of
>>>>>>> those centers like the one Tara was talking about. They have "lights
>>>>>>> out," "nurses controling meds," etc. I know, because I was there. They
>>>>>>> thought that every blind person needed counseling. They called it
>>>>>>> assertiveness training. The whole thing is a scam! They ship you off
>>>>>>> to another state once you've graduated. Let's say, your home state is
>>>>>>> Arkansas, (because that's mine.) You go through the IRS program, (for
>>>>>>> example.) Once you've graduated, (since there are no jobs for you in
>>>>>>> that field, they'll ship you to Georgia, Florida, Alabama, or
>>>>>>> somewhere else, without your consent. I want to stay in Arkansas. All
>>>>>>> of my family is here. You think I'm going to a state where I don't
>>>>>>> know anyone from Adam? Nope! That's all LWSB is good for. Stay away!
>>>>>>> Go to LCB, if you want that kind of training, but stay away from LWSB!
>>>>>>> Blessings, Joshua
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 2/11/11, Josh Kennedy <jkenn337 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I want to let you guys know that I will be going to lions world within
>>>>>>>> the next 5 or so months. I will be going for desktop support
>>>>>>>> technician
>>>>>>>> and then microsoft certified systems engineer program.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Josh
>>>> 
>>>> 
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