[nabs-l] Security in ourselves, acceptance in others

[Jorge Paez]

And--is not the NFB Braille Monitor a copyrighted property?

Yet we encourage distributing it.

I'm sure neither the NFB or ACB would have a problem with either being distributed for free would they?


Or, and I say this with respect to everyone involved, is it just "not good" for the leadership if we hear the ACB's side?





On Jun 9, 2011, at 9:02 PM, Kirt Manwaring wrote:

> David,
>  I do understand the Braille Forum is a copyrighted publication of
> the American Council of the Blind, so there might be legal/ethical
> issues with distributing it outside official ACB channels.  But I am
> slightly curious (and I say this with the utmost respect), would
> circulating an issue of the braille Monitor  describing the split in
> terms favorable to the Federation be "not appropriate for this list?"
>  Sincerely,
> Kirt
> 
> On 6/9/11, Jorge Paez <computertechjorgepaez at gmail.com> wrote:
>> David:
>> With all due respect, can we not have an open mind?
>> 
>> After all: Chris isn't doing any obvious harm by presenting an opposing view
>> is he?
>> Is he telling us to join the ACB?
>> No, and I take that as harmless.
>> 
>> Why silence what could possibly be a question that will be brought up by
>> future leaders anyway?
>> 
>> Sooner or later we'll have to debate not the marrits or not of the
>> organization, but what we stand fore because as the world evolves, so must
>> our stance on issues--we can never stand solid by one policy and say we will
>> follow it until we die for if the target changes, then so must our aim--and
>> we should be open to anything and consider all as long as our principles of
>> blind independence and first class citizenship are not at risk.
>> 
>> You realize its not the ACB that you oppose, its their ideas, and are we not
>> open to discussion on this?
>> Just because we talk doesn't mean we do,
>> are you by any stretch of the imagination suggesting that there is a hidden
>> threat in reading a politically contrary paper?
>> 
>> I agree--if Chris were to do it every month I would see why,
>> but just once won't hurt anyone will it?
>> 
>> 
>> Jorge
>> 
>> 
>> On Jun 9, 2011, at 4:42 PM, David Andrews wrote:
>> 
>>> Chris:
>>> 
>>> While what you are trying to do is "well meaning," it is inappropriate,
>>> and not in step with the purpose of this list.  This is not a debating
>>> society, and nor are we a vehicle to distribute the Braille Forum.  This
>>> list is for NABS and blind students, not to discuss the founding of the
>>> ACB, or debate how it is different from the NFB.
>>> 
>>> David Andrews, List Owner
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> At 02:55 PM 6/9/2011, you wrote:
>>>> Hmm...  that's interesting.  Well, I went out of my comfort zone a little
>>>> and signed up to get both the Monitor and the Braille Forum (ACB's
>>>> magazine) by email.  I will attach this month's Braille Forum.  Although
>>>> a lot of it has to do with the lagistics of their convention in Reno,
>>>> please especially take time to read the President's Message column from
>>>> Mitch Pomerantz.  You'll see there what he says about the NFB and Dr.
>>>> TenBroek and Dr.
>>>> Jernigan, while comparing the ACB's founding to that of the United
>>>> States.  What do you all think of this? Am I stirring the pot too much?
>>>> Oh heck...  another little debate won't hurt.  * Smile!
>>> 
>>> 
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