[nabs-l] proposition for amendment to constitution

Darian Smith dsmithnfb at gmail.com
Mon Jun 20 03:03:17 UTC 2011


In the  end,  do you think Nabs  as a division  will pass this?


On 6/19/11, T. Joseph Carter <carter.tjoseph at gmail.com> wrote:
> Courtney, there was at least as much fraud in 2008 as the previous
> two presidential elections.  The reason why 2008 was not the circus
> the previous elections were is that Obama clearly carried by such a
> wide margin that the obvious fraud in the election could not have
> changed the outcome for either party.
>
> The only electronic voting system I’ve seen not prone to tampering
> and voter integrity issues is the Automark, because it marks a paper
> ballot which is then counted.
>
> If each student in the organization had a digital credential with
> cryptographic security issued by NABS at the time you pay dues, that
> credential could sign your ballot electronically.  Until you lose it
> in a hard drive crash, of course.  Then how do you replace it in such
> a way that NABS knows the replacement credential is going to you and
> only you?
>
> I’ve nothing useful to add regarding the non-technical aspects, but I
> certainly do not dispute a thing you said about them.
>
> Joseph
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 01:20:06PM -0500, Courtney Stover wrote:
>>Hi all:
>>
>>Many of the cogent points have already been discussed here.  However,
>>there are a couple which I'd like to cover in greater detail.
>>
>>As someone who attended National convention several years ago because
>>of the extremely hard and diligent work of my chapter President to
>>procure financial aid, I can vouch that what a great deal of the
>>membership are saying about getting some of your expenses covered in
>>this manner is definitely doable, especially if you begin planning in
>>advance.
>>
>>As evidence of why this measure would be an absolute nightmare I
>>submit exhibit A: the 2000 Presidential election, and Exhibit B: the
>>2004 Presidential election.
>>
>>I am not attempting to begin a political discussion here, but due to
>>some voter fraud and logistics issues, those elections were a
>>nightmare no matter which side you were on.
>>
>>I don't like how this amendment would discourage people from gaining
>>the full experience of the NFB through the communal aspects showcased
>>to such great effect through convention.  If all we have to do to
>>influence policy decisions is press a button, why would we, especially
>>those of us who struggle financially, attempt to find the funds for
>>convention.
>>
>>In closing, there's a factor I think very few of those in favor of
>>this amendment are considering: stage presence.  We want people who
>>can not only articulately and passionately represent the NFB in
>>writing, but in person, too.  Extremely articulate letter writers may
>>become rather tongue-tied and shy in person...any of you who know me
>>well can vouch for the truth of that one.  So, to my mind, to make the
>>best possible decision, we need written platforms such as those posted
>>to the list over the last few days, and face to face interaction,
>>which we will gain at convention.
>>
>>Courtney
>
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