[nabs-l] [Nfbnet-members-list] Threw Our Eyes interview, Ride into History, Race for Independence, Wed. June 22, 8:00 pm EDT
Carly Mihalakis Esq.
carlymih at earthlink.net
Wed Jun 22 01:56:26 UTC 2011
Hi, Josh and List family,
I tried to GOOGLE the . Dr. TenBroek's speech "a Vision of History"
but it was just the text. In the name of authenticity, might you
anyone know where one can find Dr. TenBroek delivering, the actual
speech , as it was orriginally heard, by our people, in 1940?
Car02:36 PM 6/21/2011, Chris Nusbaum wrote:
>Speaking of history, how about reading and/or listening to Dr.
>Jernigan's speech entitled Blindness: The Lessons of History.
>This shows what we're talking about.
>
>Chris
>
>"A loss of sight, never a loss of vision!" (Camp Abilities motto)
>To learn more about Camp Abilities and find a local camp near you,
>just click on this link to their national Web site: www.campabilities.org.
>
>The I C.A.N. Foundation helps visually impaired youth in Maryland
>have the ability to confidently say "I can!" How? Click on this link
>to learn more and to contribute: www.icanfoundation.info.
>
>Sent from my BrailleNote
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Kirt Manwaring <kirt.crazydude at gmail.com
>To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>Date sent: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 11:25:14 -0600
>Subject: Re: [nabs-l] [Nfbnet-members-list] Threw Our Eyes
>interview,Ride into History, Race for Independence, Wed. June 22, 8:00 pm EDT
>
>Dave,
> How long ago was this? Things could've changed since you last went
>if it's been a while, maybe? And, with respect, this is a big deal to
>a lot of us. I know for me it's a lot more than a "small
>consideration", I like to know the past as much as I can because it
>shaped the here and now. I can read the books put out by each
>organization-they probably both have lots of the truth intermingled
>with their respective agendas. But nothing beats talking to people
>who have studied the issues or, preferably, people who were actually
>there.
> All the best,
>Kirt
>
>On 6/21/11, David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com> wrote:
>The two biggest things I noticed at an ACB national convention were
>that the crowd was considerably smaller than that at a NFB convention
>-- less exhibits etc. too. The second things was that there were few
>young persons -- some but noticeably not very many. One of the major
>things that the ACB has pushed in the past is that it is different
>from the NFB, it does things differently etc. This doesn't really
>matter to younger people though, so they have little reason to join, so
>don't.
>
>You guys can spend lots of time on the history, and differences if
>you want -- but what is the point. It happened, it is over with and
>done. Yes we can and should learn from our history, but it is just
>one small consideration.
>
>Dave
>
>At 11:32 AM 6/20/2011, you wrote:
>Dave,
> I do see your point. Those alive at the time are not, and will
>probabluy never be friends. Heck, getting them to actually talk in
>peace would be the achievement of the century! if such a call were
>to hypothetically happen, how could we keep it from opening old wounds
>and stoking old fires?
> Best,
>Kirt
>
>On 6/20/11, Chris Nusbaum <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com> wrote:
>Dave,
>
>Our joint conference call isn't associated whatsoever with the
>proposition of a change in the NFB bylaw. If I'm setting this
>up, which it appears I am, I didn't even have the intention of
>mentioning that proposition on the call. The call's purpose is
>to learn the history of the NFB/ACB, with a little emphasis on
>the "civil war" period, from both sides so we are informed. I
>also want this call to start a discussion on the history of our
>movement and what we can learn from it, not only as
>Federationists, but as blind students. Jorge and I have found
>some ways that we can hold the call without making it a NABS
>membership call, if it is entirely necessary. And as to your
>comments about them not being our friends, then using your
>argument, the Republicans should not hear the Democrats point of
>view in meetings of Congress, but the two parties should be
>separated from each other for fear of their own side being
>attacked. We can keep our same opinions, and probably many
>Federationists and Council members who attend this call will.
>This is just a way that we can be more informed when forming
>these opinions.
>
> Chris
>
>"A loss of sight, never a loss of vision!" (Camp Abilities motto)
>To learn more about Camp Abilities and find a local camp near
>you, just click on this link to their national Web site:
>www.campabilities.org.
>
>The I C.A.N. Foundation helps visually impaired youth in
>Maryland have the ability to confidently say "I can!" How? Click
>on this link to learn more and to contribute:
>www.icanfoundation.info.
>
> Sent from my BrailleNote
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>From: David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com
>To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
><nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>Date sent: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 20:39:01 -0500
>Subject: Re: [nabs-l] [Nfbnet-members-list] Threw Our Eyes
>interview,Ride into History, Race for Independence, Wed. June
>22, 8:00 pm EDT
>
>Chris:
>
>I don't want to friend anyone -- but I think this is a terrible
>idea! Remember the ACB split off from the NFB because they
>thought
>that we were all wrong, did our business in the wrong way etc.
>I
>am
>not going to say that we can't learn anything from the ACB, but
>not a
>history lesson. I was at a ACb National Convention a few years
>ago
>-- and heard the NFB attacked openly and indirectly. These folks
>are
>not our friends. We can work jointly at times, and should, and I
>don't think we should be against them, for the sake of it, as
>some of
>my old-timer friends are -- but a joint conference call on
>consideration of a change to a NFB division bylaw is going to
>far!
>
>Dave
>
>At 12:53 PM 6/19/2011, you wrote:
>Kirt,
>
>I have a friend in the Council that I will see Monday night, so I
>plan to give this idea to him and ask if he knows someone in the
>Council that would be knowledgeable enough and willing to attend
>this call on behalf of the Council as an expert on their history.
>Maybe it would be better if someone like me moderated. Keep in
>mind
>that I did volunteer, but I'm not degrading anyone else, I'm just
>using myself as an example here. I'm a member of the Federation,
>but I'm not a hard-line "NFB is good, ACB bad" person, so I
>wouldn't
>show any bias to NFB or ACB. I also am not currently a
>contributing
>(due-paying) member of NABS, so I'm not a leader in it of
>course. That way, we wouldn't have any bias.
>I think it would be easy to have it jointly attended even if it's
>an
>official NABS call. If we have a representative of ACB on the
>call,
>we could probably easily get other members of ACB on the call to
>kind of back up or add to that guest speaker's information.
>Thoughts?
>
>Chris
>
>"A loss of sight, never a loss of vision!" (Camp Abilities motto)
>To learn more about Camp Abilities and find a local camp near
>you,
>just click on this link to their national Web site:
>www.campabilities.org.
>
>The I C.A.N. Foundation helps visually impaired youth in
>Maryland
>have the ability to confidently say "I can!" How? Click on this
>link
>to learn more and to contribute: www.icanfoundation.info.
>
>Sent from my BrailleNote
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Kirt Manwaring <kirt.crazydude at gmail.com
>To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
><nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>Date sent: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 00:45:08 -0600
>Subject: Re: [nabs-l] [Nfbnet-members-list] Threw Our Eyes
>interview,Ride into History, Race for Independence, Wed. June
>22, 8:00 pm EDT
>
>Carley,
> The two organizations don't really claim to be "friends" as
>such-it
>seems like now they just mostly ignore each other, work jointly
>when
>their agendas converge and play politics when they don't. Maybe
>they
>aren't enemies, but the official organizations don't really
>advertise
>themselves as friends.
> While it would be great to have people from both organizations
>participate in a joint call, I don't see it happening. Here's
>hoping
>though, I guess It's certainly a nice thought-although, if the
>call
>were to have presentations from members of both organizations, it
>probably should be jointly moderated and attended. The NFB (or
>probably even NABS) would, I'm betting, not be inclined to go
>there.
>So maybe we'll have better luck going through unnoficial channels
>and
>setting this up on our own? No need to make it an official event
>for
>either the Federation or the Council-I think it's safe to say
>that
>idea was doomed to fail before it was brought up.
> Best,
>Kirt
>
>On 6/18/11, Chris Nusbaum <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com> wrote:
>And, as I said before, I would be very willing to moderate this
>call. Please keep me posted!
>
> Chris
>
>"A loss of sight, never a loss of vision!" (Camp Abilities motto)
>To learn more about Camp Abilities and find a local camp near
>you, just click on this link to their national Web site:
>www.campabilities.org.
>
>The I C.A.N. Foundation helps visually impaired youth in
>Maryland have the ability to confidently say "I can!" How? Click
>on this link to learn more and to contribute:
>www.icanfoundation.info.
>
> Sent from my BrailleNote
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>From: Ignasi Cambra <ignasicambra at gmail.com
>To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
><nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>Date sent: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 18:51:04 -0400
>Subject: Re: [nabs-l] [Nfbnet-members-list] Threw Our Eyes
>interview,Ride into History, Race for Independence, Wed. June
>22, 8:00 pm EDT
>
>This call would be very interesting indeed. If representatives
>from both organizations are willing to participate, it can really
>be productive in many ways.
>On Jun 18, 2011, at 1:46 PM, Carly Mihalakis wrote:
>
>
>
> Good morning, list,
>
> A few days ago, someone on the NABS list suggested a
>conference
>call bringing clarity to a younger generation. What, exactly, is
>the history of the ideological parting of ways, between the
>Federation and the Council? Does anybody know today, the history
>of this division or is it a product of sheer habit as is the case
>with Republicans and Democrats? If such a meeting of both
>entities were to take place, There ought to be representation of
>both organizations so that a wholistic portrait of this issue
>can be exercised.
>
> and its split from the ACB. This seems like a productive and
>enlightening discussion but I wonder, if the Federation and the
>council claim to be friends, should there not be representation
>from both sides, identifying their position and whereabouts
>they stand, in this? At
> ---- Original Message ------
> From: "Joe Ruffalo" <nfbnj at yahoo.com> (by way of David
>Andrews<dandrews at visi.com>)
> Subject: [Nfbnet-members-list] Thru Our Eyes interview, Ride
>into History,Race for Independence, Wed. June 22, 8:00 pm EDT
> Date sent: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 19:26:45 -0500
>
>
> Save The Date:
>
> On Wednesday, June 22,at 8:00 pm eastern, Thru Our Eyes host,
>Joe
> Ruffalo will interview Parnell Diggs, chair of the Imagination
>Fund,
> Race for Independence.
>
> The interview will highlight current and past grants awarded to
>state
> affiliates and chapters.
> In addition, featured will be Imaginators who will share the
>methods
> to make the ask to make a difference in changing what it means
>to be blind.
>
> Special highlight of the interview will be the announcement of
>the 30
> winners who will have the opportunity to be driven by a blind
>driver
> while attending
> the national convention in Orlando.
>
> Witness the opportunity to ride into history!
>
> To watch and listen to the interview, please visit the
>following:
> <http://www.thruoureyes.org>www.thruoureyes.org
>
> For JAWS users and mobile phone users, please visit the
>following:
>
> m.thruoureyes.org
>
> Other options to watch or listen can be found on the sites
>listed above.
>
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>following:
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>
>
>
>
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