[nabs-l] An Article about another Student at Myy College
Kirt Manwaring
kirt.crazydude at gmail.com
Sun May 8 03:44:34 UTC 2011
Jedi,
(there are a lot of people I could reply to but I want to talk to
Jedi right now),
Fair enough-there are certainly other disabilities, both personal or
circumstancial, that are as limiting as blindness is without
training-what does that have to do with blindness making us unable to
perform on an equal level as the rest of the world without training
and opportunity? I mean, sure there are plenty of other limiting
factors in life, what does that have to do with blindness being or not
being a limiting factor?
Josh-helpless is bad. I think we all agree on that here. But I
still say we're not equal with the sighted world, in terms of
capability, without propper training. And, I'd submit, even with
propper training, blindness is stil a disability and, as such, will
always cause problems here and there although they would be more
inconveniences than drastic debilitating issues.
Just my thoughts,
Kirt
On 5/7/11, Josh Gregory <joshkart12 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hey, can you explain that? I find it interesting. Your thought,
> I mean. Feel free to write offlist if you want.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com
> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Sat, 7 May 2011 20:19:57 -0700
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] An Article about another Student at Myy
> College
>
> Or perhaps whatever god you believe in knows you can't write your
> insights
> down so, taking a page from the Devil, inspires all sorts of
> universally
> true and enlightening insights a la Firmat's Theorem that will
> vanish into
> thin air in the morning. (grin)
>
> Mike
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org
> [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Josh Gregory
> Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 8:09 PM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] An Article about another Student at Myy
> College
>
> Um... maybe Cause your mind is more relaxed? You don't have to
> think about
> much so you can think more clearly? IDK. Just my late-night
> thoughts...
> Josh
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Nicole B. Torcolini at Home" <ntorcolini at wavecable.com
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Sat, 7 May 2011 20:06:13 -0700
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] An Article about another Student at Myy
> College
>
> Lol, yes. Why is it that everything comes to you when you are in
> bed?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jedi" <loneblindjedi at samobile.net
> To: <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 7:34 PM
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] An Article about another Student at Myy
> College
>
>
> Yeah, I'd say so. But I was thinking a while ago and realized
> that there
> are loads of cases where training is required in order to
> function, not
> just blindness. I can't remember what specific examples I
> thought of at
> the time, but I'm sure they'll hit me at some God-forsaken hour
> of the
> night.
>
> Respectfully,
> JEdi
>
> Original message:
> Jedi,
> Maybe it'll makemore sense if I say it this way. I wasn't
> refering
> to a person's intrinsic value. I should've said we can't
> compete on
> an equal level by default. I'm going to invert a statement
> you've
> heard a billion times. Without propper training and
> opportunity,
> blindness is a great deal more than a mere nuisence, and is, in
> fact,
> a very significant limitation. Would you agree?
> Best regards,
> Kirt
>
> On 5/7/11, Ignasi Cambra <ignasicambra at gmail.com> wrote:
> I think I know him too. We got our guide dogs at the same time
> back in
> 2004.
> I remember Matt really loved baseball at the time, and he was
> always
> playing
> outside with his dad. I couldn't really speak English at the
> time and we
> were very young, so I don't think we got to talk much.
> Actually, when
> they
> were matching dogs with owners he got assigned my current guide
> dog, but
> Matt walked too slow for the dog, or maybe it was the dog
> walking too
> fast
> :). But the fact is that I ended up with that dog, which is
> still
> working
> wonderfully! I was always walking a little faster than the dog
> they
> assigned
> me at first, so it worked out very well. I guess that's the
> advantage of
> instructors having a huge pool of trained dogs to choose from
> for each
> person.
>
> IC
> On May 6, 2011, at 1:20 PM, Jedi wrote:
>
> I believe Matt Cooper participated in Youth Slam 2007. I met
> him and
> was
> quite impressed with him just because he was a down-to-earth
> kind of
> guy
> who didn't toot his own horn to much. He was an all-around good
> kid.
>
> I really liked the title the school gives to its DSS office. It
> makes
> so
> much sense and isn't euphemistic at all. "Office for Accessible
> Education." I think I might suggest that to my school.
>
> Respectfully,
> Jedi
>
> Original message:
> What do you guys think of this?
> http://www.stanforddaily.com/2011/05/04/seeing-it-through/
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