[nabs-l] Android and Mobile Accessibility

Tue May 31 22:54:33 UTC 2011

I don't think it is.  Why pay when you can get the
* total accessibility out of the box when you buy your phone? The 
iPhone is pretty much universal as far as carriers, so my 
question is: why are we even deliberating on this decision? On 
the Android, you have to pay for accessibility, where on the 
iPhone you can get accessibility free and out of the box.  Um...  
don't we want to spend less money, not more?

 Chris

"A loss of sight, never a loss of vision!" (Camp Abilities motto)

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 ----- Original Message -----
From: Liz Bottner <liziswhatis at hotmail.com
To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" 
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Wed, 25 May 2011 18:52:41 -0500
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Android and Mobile Accessibility

Yes, I do realize this.  I believe that my point still stands: I 
pay the
money and can access what MA will let me access, regardless of 
who's fault
it was that increased accessibility isn't available.  The bottom 
line is that
I am still having to pay extra for accessibility, something that 
comes
inherent on Apple devices.  It really is a catch-22.

Liz Bottner
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-----Original Message-----
From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org 
[mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Jorge Paez
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2011 6:09 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Android and Mobile Accessibility

Liz:
Just a quick note:
the apps are all developed by Mobile Accessibility--but the fact 
that the
screenreader doesn't work that well outside those apps is rather 
Google's
fault.

On May 25, 2011, at 1:00 PM, Liz Bottner wrote:

 What are some things related to usability and convenience that 
you give up
 in using an Android? I am thinking of possibly taking the plunge 
and
getting
 an Android, having used an iPhone prior.  I have had very little 
experience
 using Android, and will say that I was frustrated in doing so.  
If I have
to
 give up a lot and find that my use of the phone and its features 
really is
 limited, I may not go for it.  I really wish Google would make
accessibility
 a priority.  I would love choice in which mobile platform I can 
use.  I'm
 possibly also spoiled in that I don't think I should have to pay 
extra for
 accessibility, (following Apple's example), especially if the 
extra that I
 would pay only allows me access to a specific suite of 
applications deemed
 accessible by one developer/company and I still cannot have full 
access to
 the phone.  Lastly, I am wondering at this point if Android is 
not more
 accessible to the low vision user than it is to one who is 
totally blind?

 Just my thoughts...

 Liz Bottner
 Guiding Eyes Graduate Council
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 -----Original Message-----
 From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org 
[mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf
 Of Ignasi Cambra
 Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 5:17 PM
 To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
 Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Android and Mobile Accessibility

 In my experience, Android is truly interesting for experimenting 
at this
 point, and with some work and trying and failing many things can 
be done.
I
 have tried both Talkback and Mobile Accessibility and, to be 
honest, none
of
 the two provide anything close to the experience you will get on 
an
iPhone.
 If you need a fully functional phone and you need to accomplish 
things
 quickly and efficiently, I would say Android is not ready yet.  
If you want
 to try something new and you are willing to give up on some 
usability and
 convenience, try getting an Android phone and see how it goes.  
If you are
 planning on using Mobile Accessibility I would recommend that 
you get a
 touch screen phone.

 IC
 On May 24, 2011, at 5:40 PM, Jorge Paez wrote:

 Hi all:
 Just wondering,
 my time is coming for a chance to upgrade on AT&T and I am 
interested in
 the Android platform.
 What experiences have you had with the platform/screenreader?
 Is TalkBack any good?

 Thank you.

 Jorge

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