[nabs-l] reflecting on the attacks

Beth thebluesisloose at gmail.com
Mon Sep 12 19:29:24 UTC 2011


Btw, I converted to Ilam last year.  I don't appreciate anybody 
trying to group all Terrorists into the Muslim category.  Barack 
Obama said once that Al Qaida slaughtered millions of Muslims.  I 
have a friend whose Musloim son in the millitary went to Iraq god 
knows how many times.
My cousin was a vet, and my roommate retired before she did any 
tours of duty.  I'm surrounded by vets, but there are Muslim 
veterans, and no, as far as I know, I'm not flying anymore.
The reason is that I don't want my cane taken away, and I don't 
want to be hauled in a wheelchair into the plane.  I don't want 
my hijab removed because I am not going to let men get their 
boots wet over my hair.  Thanks.
Beth

 ----- Original Message -----
From: Nimer M. Jaber, IC³ <nimerjaber1 at gmail.com
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list 
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 12:30:27 -0500
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] reflecting on the attacks

You people don't understand, do you? I don't agree with blind 
people's
canes being taken away and all the rest of the stuff that's been
happening, although I have to say that for about five years now I 
have
had no problems at all traveling, and I do it pretty often. I 
know
there are issues. But what you people don't understand is, it's 
the
difference between having the right to be independent and travel 
with
a cane and not having the right at all. If we left our nation
vulnerable to attack, some group (whether it be Muslims or some 
other
group in the future) who are hell-bent on the US' distruction 
will
attack and if we're not ready, everything the United States has 
done,
everything that over 200 years of soldiers fought for will just 
be
taken away. I'm shocked too as all this anti-american rhetoric 
but I
can't be too surprised with a liberal media and liberal college
professors ... Either way, everyone's got their own opinions ...

Thanks.

On 12.09.2011, Peter Donahue <pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com> wrote:
 Hello Joshua and everyone,

 Yes. Keep in mind however that these are not scheduled flights 
like the
 airlines. As air charter clients have needs to fly to your area 
that will
 determine the availability of flights to where you need to go 
being offered.

 Peter Donahue


 ----- Original Message -----
 From: "Joshua Lester" <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu
 To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
 <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
 Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 10:39 AM
 Subject: Re: [nabs-l] reflecting on the attacks


 Do they have services, in Arkansas?
 Thanks, Joshua

 On 9/12/11, Peter Donahue <pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com> wrote:
 Hello Vejas and everyone,

 Private air travel holds another alternative to using the 
airlines. There
 are a number of private air charter services that sell you seats 
on
 chartered aircraft at about the cost of an airline ticket. As 
the
 situation
 with the airlines degrades even further these services are 
expected to
 grow
 changing how we fly in the future. From having talked to a 
number of
 private
 air charter companies and air charter brokers it's very possible 
that we
 could find ourselves receiving better treatment by these 
services compared
 to that we've received from the airlines over the years.
     For starters the vast majority of air charter company  Web 
Sites  are
 very accessible with screen reading software and are easy to 
navigate. A
 recent entry in to the world of per-seat private air travel 
ventures is:
 http://www.socialflights.com

     While you need to get by a captcha in the signup process 
their Web
 site
 is very accessible and contains lots of information about this 
company.
 It's
 heavily integrated with Facebook so you'll need to have a 
Facebook Account
 and will need to be logged in before registering and logging in 
to Social
 Flights. Check them out and let's take air travel by the blind 
to a higher
 level!

 Peter Donahue



 ----- Original Message -----
 From: "vejas" <brlsurfer at gmail.com
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 Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 9:01 AM
 Subject: Re: [nabs-l] reflecting on the attacks


 Although independence is important, I still think our safety is
 more important.  Hopefully over the years, the airport people
 will eventually understand our situation and not take away our
 canes.  And we can do something about it being the confident NFB
 travelers we are.
 Vejas


  ----- Original Message -----
 From: Beth <thebluesisloose at gmail.com
 To: National Association of Blind Students mailing
 list<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
 Date sent: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 05:44:39 -0600
 Subject: Re: [nabs-l] reflecting on the attacks

 I understand that safety and security are an issue.  But after
 9/11, airlines I think have been treating uss mercilessly bad.
 With no mercy, airlines have taken canes away, dug into babies'
 bottles, taken diapers off, and so many other violations of
 people's privacy.  I went to Florida with my hijab on and I had
 to have somebody pat me down.  No thrills, but still.  I don't
 particularly like the security checkpoints because of how they
 might think of a blind person, somebody who is not WASP (white
 Anlgo Saxon Protestant.)  After 9/11, some things weren't so
 good, such as thhe airline security.  Even after that stupid guy
 put a bomb in his underwear, there were more security issues.
 I'm probably not flying back to Florida after what my parents
 did, which was get a security pass without boarding a plane, to
 make sure I got home.  The airlines have always been a source of
 contempt for all of us, so let's think not only about the people
 who died, but the repercussions that followed.
 Beth

  ----- Original Message -----
 From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net
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 Date sent: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 15:54:50 -0400
 Subject: Re: [nabs-l] reflecting on the attacks

 Thanks Josh,
 I think we should take time to reflect on the tragedy and also 
be
 active.
 Vote for whom you believe will
 make our country safe and secure.  You're right that safety and
 security is
 an issue as we students head back to campus.  Actually, I'm not 
a
 student
 this semester, but will go back for continuing education next
 semester at
 nova, community college.

 I'd suggest you get aquainted with your school's safety/police
 office if you
 haven't already; know where it is, know what their number is, 
and
 meet an officer or two.  Some schools like mine, marymount
 university, just
 had security officers.
 Know how to reach them as well.  If you feel unsafe, walk with
 friends back
 to your dorm or call a security escort.  Many schools offer such
 a
 service.
 At least at MU, after 12 midnight, you had to show an ID to 
enter
 the dorm;
 this is a good thing.  And also lock your dorm room, especially
 at
 night.
 If there is a threat or natural disaster, I'd leave fast.  Go to
 a
 friend's
 home, family if they're in the area, or a hotel.  Just go
 somewhere safe.
 Safety is a big priority.

 Okay, that's my tips for now.

 -----Original Message-----
 From: Joshua Lester
 Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 3:33 PM
 To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
 Subject: Re: [nabs-l] reflecting on the attacks

 Ashley:
 Great post!
 This has everything to do, with this list, because many blind
 students, are probably heading back to college, after being on
 vacation.
 This security issue is important.
 May God bless America.
 Blessings, Joshua

 On 9/11/11, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
  Hi all,
  We all have varying views on how to address safety and 
security.
 But
  somehow, some way, those terrorists got through.
  We were attacked a decade ago.
  I was finishing a class in high school when I heard the news.
 School was
  closed the next day.  Our school had an assembly where the
 choir,
 band, and
  other groups performed to commemorate 9/11.
  I hope that we all take a moment to reflect on it.  I will be
 praying for
  our
  country and everyone? safety/security on the anniversary.
  I? a Christian so I have faith that we will grow stronger as a
 nation.  If
  you had a loved one impacted by the attack, I hope you 
recovered
 somewhat
  from the tragedy.

  Some pray in churches, others are going to public memorials
 today and
  still
  others will do volunteer service to serve the country.  If you
 are doing
  anything different or special, I hope it goes well for you.

  Take care.
  Ashley
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