[nabs-l] asking for advice on problem at school

Chris Nusbaum dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com
Sat Feb 11 17:03:38 UTC 2012


Hi Arielle,

Exactly! I think this all stems from a lack of education 
(remember the "real problem of blindness" quote from Dr.  
Jernigan, and what he thought was the real problem of blindness) 
so I am currently working with my guidance counselors to plan 
some kind of presentation which will help to educate students.  
We're not sure of all the details yet; we're still brainstorming.

As for pullouts, you are correct; I have to make up all work 
missed from any class I am pulled out of.  The 2 academic classes 
I get pulled out of for O and M are social studies and part of 
science.  The rest of my pullouts come in my specials (music, PE, 
etc.) My only problem with missing music is that I'm taking 
chorus, which means that we need to learn the music so we can 
perform in a concert for the school and for the parents.  My IEP 
Team and I are working on a solution to this problem; possibly 
dropping adaptive PE and picking up the physical fitness at home.  
As to high school, my IEP Team had a meeting with the AP 
(assistant principal, not advanced placement) of the high school 
I will be going to about scheduling.  The plan now is to build a 
resource period in which we will have my services, instead of 
being pulled out of classes.  This should work with the classes 
I'm taking.

Chris

Chris Nusbaum
Email and Google Talk/Keychat (on the BrailleNote) ID: 
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"The real problem of blindness is not the loss of eyesight.  The 
real problem is the misunderstanding and lack of education that 
exists.  If a blind person has the proper training and 
opportunity, blindness can be reduced to a mere physical 
nuisance."
-- Kenneth Jernigan

 ----- Original Message -----
From: Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list 
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 20:01:49 -0700
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] asking for advice on problem at school

Hi Chris,
I had the same problem in middle and high school with kids 
teasing me
about cheating because I used a Braille Lite for homework and 
tests.
It is especially hard for blind students who get good grades, I 
think
because other students can be envious.  However, I wouldn't worry 
about
it too much because in the end, it doesn't matter whether the 
kids
think you are cheating or not.  It only matters what your 
teachers
think and they are probably not going to suspect you of cheating 
just
because of what other kids say.  Your teachers are allowing you 
to use
your technology for tests and assignments so they must trust you.  
They
also know that you are being pulled out and not just skipping 
class.
If a teacher does worry about your integrity, there are things 
they
can do to ensure you aren't cheating, such as pop-quizzing you 
orally
on the material without letting you look at your Braille Note.  
The
false claims of students aren't going to affect your permanent 
record,
grades or anything else, so just relax and do your best to either
educate the kids or just ignore them.
Now, I assume when you say you are being pulled out for things 
like
O&M, you are still expected to make up the work in the classes 
you're
pulled out of, right? What classes are you being pulled out of? 
If the
classes are ones like drama or music, it's probably not a big 
deal,
but if you're regularly missing academic subjects like math or 
science
or social studies, I think that can be a problem.  You don't want 
to
end up in a situation where you're missing lessons or where 
you're
expected to do less work than the rest of the class because of 
your
pull-outs.  It doesn't sound like this is happening, but if it 
is, I
would suggest you talk with your IEP team about trying to 
schedule
your pull-outs before or after school so that you're not missing
class.  This will be especially important in high school.  
However,
often high schools will allow students to take a free period so 
you
can try to have your pull-outs during that free period if 
possible
when you start high school.  It might also be worth thinking 
about what
your pull-outs are and if you have several, whether all of them 
are
absolutely necessary.  This is a decision you'll need to make in
collaboration with your parents and teachers on your IEP team, 
but you
are an important member of that team.
Best,
Arielle

On 2/9/12, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
 Hi Chris,
 Well, I hope he stops bullying; like you said, let it go.  don't 
give him
 attention and hopefully it will pass.
 Sorry to hear about the student's behavior.  That is immature.

 -----Original Message-----
 From: Chris Nusbaum
 Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2012 8:18 PM
 To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
 Subject: Re: [nabs-l] asking for advice on problem at school

 Hi Ashley,

 I agree.  I don't think this is something which is effecting my
 right to a "free and appropriate education," and therefore
 wouldn't be appropriate for an IEP or to even be brought up at
 the IEP meeting; that is, unless it happens again and again.  As
 I reported here last week, I have talked with my principal about
 this, and she has promised to take care of this.  I trust that
 she will, so I'm letting it go for now.

 Also, after more recent events have happened, the pretzel
 incident seems like a pretty small matter.  I won't go through
 all the details, but basically other students at my school have
 been falsely accusing me of cheating on tests (that is, looking
 at notes I take in my notetaker during tests) and being "let off
 the hook" on classwork when I'm really in a pullout class.  
These
 kids really need to be educated!

 Chris

 Chris Nusbaum
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 dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com
 Skype: christpher.nusbaum3 or search for Chris Nusbaum

 "The real problem of blindness is not the loss of eyesight.  The
 real problem is the misunderstanding and lack of education that
 exists.  If a blind person has the proper training and
 opportunity, blindness can be reduced to a mere physical
 nuisance."
 -- Kenneth Jernigan

 ----- Original Message -----
 From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net
 To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
 <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
 Date sent: Sat, 4 Feb 2012 23:30:25 -0500
 Subject: Re: [nabs-l] asking for advice on problem at school

 Chris,
 If it happens again and again, then bring it to the IEP team.
 But if not,
 I'd let it go.  I mean you let the top official-- the principal
 know.  So I
 think that is enough.  Its not as if the Iep team will do
 anything more; and
 besides most of them such as your parents and TVI already know
 about the
 issues.

 -----Original Message-----
 From: Chris Nusbaum
 Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 10:07 PM
 To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
 Subject: Re: [nabs-l] asking for advice on problem at school

 You're right; it wouldn't be something to put in my IEP.  But do
 you think it would hurt to bring it up to the team?

 Chris

 "The real problem of blindness is not the loss of eyesight.  The
 real problem is the misunderstanding and lack of education that
 exists.  If a blind person has the proper training and
 opportunity, blindness can be reduced to a mere physical
 nuisance."
 -- Kenneth Jernigan

 ----- Original Message -----
 From: "Nicole B.  Torcolini at Home" <ntorcolini at wavecable.com
 To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
 <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
 Date sent: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 15:09:51 -0800
 Subject: Re: [nabs-l] asking for advice on problem at school

 This is not the kind of thing that you put in an IEP.

 ----- Original Message -----
 From: "Hope Paulos" <hope.paulos at gmail.com
 To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
 <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
 Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 4:48 PM
 Subject: Re: [nabs-l] asking for advice on problem at school


     Hi Chris.  I'm assuming you're in high school..  I'd go to
 both your
 principal and your guidance counselor.  I wouldn't talk to him
 directly-- I
 think he'd get more dicipline if you had the principal talk to
 him.  I'd
 also bring it up during your IEP/PET.
 HTH
 Hope and Beignet
 ----- Original Message -----
 From: "Beth" <thebluesisloose at gmail.com
 To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
 <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
 Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 6:54 PM
 Subject: Re: [nabs-l] asking for advice on problem at school


 I knew this kid, speaking of criminals who were playground and
 school
 bullies, who was always harassing me, got mein trouble at lunch
 one day in
 elementary school, and later went on to rape somebody and go to
 jail for
 it.
 Beth

 ----- Original Message -----
 From: Desiree Oudinot <turtlepower17 at gmail.com
 To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
 <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
 Date sent: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 18:41:07 -0500
 Subject: Re: [nabs-l] asking for advice on problem at school

 When I was in elementary school, I had kids stealing books from
 me,
 throwing erasers in my hair, pulling chairs out from under me,
 you
 name it, they did it.  The worst part was that most times, my
 teachers
 were right there, and refused to do anything about it, because
 they
 too were uncomfortable with my blindness, so why should they
 intervene? I say this because it wasn't so long ago that this
 happened
 to me.  I grew up in the 90's, before bullying was the huge deal
 it is
 now, but still close enough to the events of Columbine that it
 wasn't
 completely unheard of either.  And it was as "unacceptable" then
 as it
 is now.  Yes, I put unacceptable in quotes, because guess what,
 it
 happens every day and so little of it is actually dealt with.
 Meanwhile, things that are no real problem at all are resulting
 in
 criminal records, such as a case I heard about recently where a
 boy
 gave his friend a hug in school and was charged with sexual
 harassment.  I forget their exact ages, but they were young,
 elementary
 school age.  And yet, kids are driven to suicide, depression,
 drugs,
 and every other dysfunction in the book, because they're bullied
 mercilessly every day and no one will do anything about it.
 Why do I say all this? I say it because I hope your school isn't
 like
 mine was.  I hope that someone in authority actually cares.  I
 hope that
 it doesn't escalate, because most kids have a cruel streak.  I
 think
 it's true what they say about the impulsiveness of
 adolescents--it's
 human nature to be cruel, and at that age, most of us haven't
 learned
 how to control those impulses or aggressions, making them the
 most
 prone not only to selfishness and thoughtlessness, but to almost
 animal rage, not to mention an inability to see beyond their own
 actions to how they might be affecting others.  My point is,
 people
 like this have to be stopped.  Perhaps if something can get
 through to
 them while they're still young and impressionable, they might
 not grow
 up to be tomorrow's criminals.  Or maybe they will, who knows.
 But I've
 seen enough to know what usually happens in these situations,
 even if
 it was 15 years ago; and, in saying that, I hope things have
 evolved
 at least a little bit since then.  It makes me sick to read
 messages
 like this.  I hope for your sake that these small actions do not
 go
 untouched.  Right now this kid is probably testing the waters,
 seeing
 just how much he can get away with.  If he can steal a pack of
 gum, so
 to speak, he may try to steal a candy bar next, then a bag of
 chips,
 and on and on it goes, you get the picture.

 On 2/1/12, Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu> wrote:
 Chris, I know what you're going through.
 I had a girl, put a dead frog in my shirt, as we were playing
 outside,
 (I was in elementary school, when that happened.)
 Go to your principal, and he/she should do something.
 This stuff has got to stop!
 If they don't do anything, go in front of the schoolboard!
 Blessings, Joshua

 On 2/1/12, Chris Nusbaum <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com> wrote:
 Hi everyone,

 I had a problem at school today that I'd like to get your
 thoughts on as to what I should do next.  Today during lunch,
 another kid at my table dumped his bag of pretzels into my water
 bottle without my knowing; he must have thought it was some kind
 of funny prank.  Fortunately, I was sitting next to a good
 friend
 of mine, who told me about this.  Even after multiple people
 commented negatively about what he did, he said nothing.

 Variations on this have happened before with this same kid as
 the
 perpetrater; only once before today this school year and 3 times
 last year.  The one time something like this happened this year,
 he put his dirty napkin in my Yogurt cup (after I had finished
 eating the Yogurt) without saying anything.  The first time
 (with
 the napkin,) I realized that this had happened as I was getting
 my trash together to throw it away.  Knowing who did it, since
 he'd done this kind of thing before last year, I said, "(Insert
 name,) why is your napkin in my Yogurt?" Knowing that he had
 been
 caught, he replied, "Oh...  sorry." I then talked to the lunch
 lady who is in charge of supervising all of us in the lunchroom.
 She said she would talk to him.  I wasn't there when she did,
 but
 apparently she had, as the problem (for about a month and a
 half)
 had been resolved...  that is, until today.

 I feel that this is a person taking advantage of my blindness
 and
 playing a "prank" on me knowing that I won't catch him.  So,
 what
 do you think I should do next? Should I go to our principal?
 Should I talk to him directly? Any suggestions would be greatly
 appreciated!
 Thanks,

 Chris

 "The real problem of blindness is not the loss of eyesight.  The
 real problem is the misunderstanding and lack of education that
 exists.  If a blind person has the proper training and
 opportunity, blindness can be reduced to a mere physical
 nuisance."
 -- Kenneth Jernigan

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