[nabs-l] Locating a standard normal distribution table

Dezman jackson jackson.dezman at gmail.com
Mon Feb 20 12:31:34 UTC 2012 

Hi Arielle. Can you forward me the contact info of the person over gre accommodation? 

Thanks,
Dezman
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On Feb 18, 2012, at 3:48 PM, Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi again all,
> I talked to my friend who works at Bookshare and she said that they
> have several stats textbooks in .brf format, and she thinks at least
> one will have a normal distribution table in it. If you are a
> BookShare member, you can simply search for "normal distribution" in
> the quick search and then download a .brf copy of any statistics text
> matching that search. I can't guarantee that the table will be
> formatted properly, but presumably it's already been proofread and
> edited for Braille formatting, so if you have access to a Braille
> embosser or your school does, you can try Brailling the pages in the
> .brf file that have the table (it'll probably be near the end of the
> text) or ask your DSS to do it for you.
> Best,
> Arielle
> 
> On 2/16/12, Cindy <clb5590 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Excel will compute z tests, t tests, and r values or correlation
>> coefficients. I always had to enter the syntax of the formulas. I've never
>> been able to select and fill in formulas from the menus, but syntax can  be
>> googled.
>> 
>> Cindy
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Feb 16, 2012, at 7:36 AM, "Gloria G" <gloria.graves at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Thank you
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arielle Silverman"
>>> <arielle71 at gmail.com>
>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 9:48 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Locating a standard normal distribution table
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Hi Angelina and all,
>>>> If you'd like to have a Braille copy of the normal distribution, I
>>>> agree with others' suggestions to contact APH. You can also write to
>>>> Bookshare support and ask if that is something they have already
>>>> prepared in Braille, or if they have Braille copies of any statistics
>>>> textbooks which include the table. Getting a new stats textbook
>>>> Brailled can take a while, but if it's already been done then you
>>>> should be able to just request a copy. I will contact a friend of mine
>>>> who works for BookShare and see if she knows anything about these
>>>> tables because I am curious myself.
>>>> However, as someone who has taken multiple stats courses I think for
>>>> most class and real-world purposes, a Braille table is not necessary-I
>>>> never had access to one. For almost all assignments you will only need
>>>> either an electronic version of the table or a calculator to identify
>>>> critical values. Excel can calculate critical values for the
>>>> Z-statistic, which I think is what you are looking for. I don't know
>>>> the formula offhand but if you go to the insert formula wizard and
>>>> type in "normal distribution" you should be directed toward the right
>>>> formula. Then, if you are asked to find the value that is, say, in the
>>>> 63rd percentile, you can enter .63 into the formula and it will give
>>>> you the number. If what you're doing is something other than
>>>> Z-statistics, let me know and I'll see if there's an Excel formula for
>>>> it. You can also simply type "normal distribution table" into Google
>>>> and you should get tons of hits. If you use JAWS, you can use
>>>> control-alt-arrow to move up, down, right, and left in the table.
>>>> Failing all this, working with a reader is also an option.
>>>> Best,
>>>> Arielle
>>>> 
>>>> On 2/15/12, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>> I have not had to read stats tables. But here is what I've done with a
>>>>> reader for other tables.
>>>>> Cindy,
>>>>> You are right in that having a table with hundreds of cells in braille
>>>>> is
>>>>> not practical.
>>>>> What I do is find what I need to understand or look up. Example from
>>>>> chemistry; say the table had columns listing chemicals, down the rows
>>>>> were
>>>>> the chemical formulas. I would ask someone to read the column headings
>>>>> If
>>>>> that was too much, I'd ask for a sampling or the main ones. Then I
>>>>> direct
>>>>> them what row to read. Another way to find what you need in a table is
>>>>> to
>>>>> have an electronic copy. Then just use the find command, control f, to
>>>>> find
>>>>> it.
>>>>> Ashley
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Cindy Bennett
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 8:47 PM
>>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Locating a standard normal distribution table
>>>>> 
>>>>> I thikn it would be great to get your hands on tactile representations
>>>>> of the distributions that the various significance tests create. I
>>>>> took AP stats in high school, and was thus lucky enough to have my
>>>>> textbook in braille with the tactile representations. Therefore, I
>>>>> unfortunately cannot give you any informatoin as to where to find
>>>>> these representations or brailled tables. My braille book also had the
>>>>> tables you are speaking of, and I found that it was cumbersome and
>>>>> that it took a lot of unnecessary time for me to navigate the tables.
>>>>> I agree that it is important to have a strong grasp of the tables so
>>>>> that you can tell a reader how to read the tables, but I feel that the
>>>>> day to day time in statistics will be better spent understanding
>>>>> concepts and working formulas than in perusing the tables. They are
>>>>> huge tables with hundreds of values, and if you ever use statistics in
>>>>> a job setting, you will undoubtedly do the computations on computer
>>>>> software that will eliminate the need for tables anyway.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cindy
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 2/14/12, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>>> try APH, www.aph.org
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Anjelina
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 5:10 PM
>>>>>> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>>>> Subject: [nabs-l] Locating a standard normal distribution table
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Good evening list,
>>>>>> Does anyone know where I could find a Braille standard normal
>>>>>> distribution
>>>>>> table?
>>>>>> Thanks for any assistance.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Anjelina
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>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> Cindy Bennett
>>>>> B.A. Psychology, UNC Wilmington
>>>>> 
>>>>> clb5590 at gmail.com
>>>>> 828.989.5383
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