[nabs-l] Good vs. Not-so-good Training Centers

Tue Jul 17 18:09:28 UTC 2012

	Oh yea I know Sandy.  she actually taught typing.  She I think has
been there for a really long time.  She's nice you just have to get use to
her.

-----Original Message-----
From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Joshua Lester
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 11:59 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Good vs. Not-so-good Training Centers

Also, the old director never enforced the rules.
You can't smoke in your room.
There was a musician that I befriended, who always smoked in his room.
He got away with it!
Another point I'll make, is that some of the instructors and staff were
terrible!
My computer instructor, (Sandy,) was rude, and disrespectful to my friend,
and called him by his first name.
It should've been "Mr Clark," (not Howard!) She's fifty something, and he's
70 something!
Whatever happened to respecting elders?
He was in the elder care program, after all!
Blessings, Joshua

On 7/16/12, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
> Dave,
> Oh my! Which year did you attend WSB? Were you there for a vocational 
> program or independent living? I've heard good things about the 
> vocational tracks like IRS, but not the general life skills teaching. 
> Its sad to house
>
> a center for the blind in a high crime area. Seems counter productive 
> because the director should want students to get out and do their own 
> thing.
> There is a tendency to exaggerate here because people like nfb centers
more.
>
> Its nfb list after all.
> Are you serious? Near enough to hear gun shots?
> Ashley
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave Webster
> Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 11:43 PM
> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Good vs. Not-so-good Training Centers
>
> Hi.  My name is Dave.  I actually have been to both centers lcb and 
> wsb which is world services for the blind which formally was lions 
> world services for the blind.  I attended lcb back when Joanne was
director.
> World services gane me good training in a vocational skill but you're 
> right it didn't give good training in personal management skills.  
> things such as cooking cleaning and stuff like that wasn't all that 
> great.  One of the things to keep in mind is that wsb is in a very 
> very bad area of Little rock.  I would not want to go out on my own 
> especially at night.  Noone could pay me enough money to do that.  its 
> such a bad enough area that people have heard gun shots on campus.  
> People have seen others get arrested right there in front of the 
> school so.  Just my thoughts.-----Original
> Message-----
> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of Arielle Silverman
> Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 10:22 PM
> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [nabs-l] Good vs. Not-so-good Training Centers
>
> Hi all,
> I have not been to WSB and so cannot comment on its quality as a 
> center for specific job training (i.e. the IRS program), but I have 
> heard lots of negative rumors about it, though none as disturbing as what
Amber related.
> I
> will, however, comment on the fact that WSB apparently houses students 
> in dormitories and does not give students any opportunities to prepare 
> their own meals or, presumably, to travel very far between home and 
> campus. I am a proud graduate of LCB and I would recommend NFB centers 
> for many reasons, but one of the biggest differences I can see between 
> good and bad training centers is whether or not students live on or 
> off campus. This is simply because, in my experience, at least half of 
> what I gained from attending a center were things I learned off campus 
> by cooking, cleaning and traveling on my own. When you make the 
> commitment to go to a residential center, you really need to get the 
> most bang for your buck, so to speak, and I think dorm-style 
> accommodations really limit what you are able to learn from the 
> experience. As just one example, a skill I acquired at LCB that I 
> still use on a daily basis is knowing how to safely and confidently 
> cross the street at an uncontrolled intersection. I practiced this a 
> few times in travel class, but nearly all the safety and confidence I 
> acquired in crossing uncontrolled intersections came from needing to 
> cross Bonner and Mississippi twice each day to get to and from the LCB 
> from my off-campus apartment.
> Similarly, many of us decide to attend centers to improve nonvisual 
> cooking and cleaning skills and I don't even understand how you can 
> really practice those things if you live in a dorm. Laundry maybe, but
that's about it.
> Training isn't about just trying something out once or twice, but 
> instead it's about practice and repetition, which is best gotten when 
> you are doing things like cooking, cleaning and street travel on a 
> regular basis and out of necessity. Not to mention that having to sign 
> in and out must really make people less motivated to venture out on 
> their own--but that's a whole other issue.
> So if you are struggling between center options, I'd urge you to 
> consider whether the living situation is on or off campus as a major 
> factor in your decision.
> BTW, I think someone might have posted recently with questions about 
> LCB, but I don't recall who it was. If you still have questions, you 
> can give me a call at
> 602-502-2255
> There's a lot I could say about my LCB experience and a live  phone 
> conversation will probably be more helpful than email.
> Best,
> Arielle
>
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