[nabs-l] LWSB Little Rock Employment Training Programs

Joshua Lester jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu
Wed Jul 18 04:35:32 UTC 2012


Carly, if you had read all of my posts, you'd notice that I'm going to
attend the LCB, next June, and stay for 9 months.
Blessings, Joshua

On 7/17/12, Carly Mihalakis <carlymih at comcast.net> wrote:
> So, if you dig the NFB way, why not simply go to an NFB center for
> training? I mean, why would we want a same philosophy to be
> everywhere? Don't we claim to embrace diversity?
> CarAt 09:08 PM 7/17/2012, you wrote:
>>I agree.
>>These senters should also have the NFB philosophy.
>>Blessings, Joshua
>>
>>On 7/17/12, Desiree Oudinot <turtlepower17 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Hi all,
>> > As I see it, the job training at this center is probably its only
>> > strong point. You have to remember, though, that most people are going
>> > to live on campus unless they have family or friends in Arkansas that
>> > they can stay with, so they can commute every day. If not, what are
>> > they going to do, find an apartment, only to vacate it in 6 months? I
>> > don't think so, it doesn't work that way. flexible leases aren't that
>> > easy to come by. So honestly, its a shame that the center is as badly
>> > run as it is. I considered going there myself for the computer
>> > networking certification, but changed my mind after hearing stories
>> > very similar to the opinions that have been expressed here. As I said,
>> > it's definitely a shame that this is the only center that has such a
>> > good track record with placing the blind in profitable employment.
>> > Other centers should exist for this purpose as well. For one place to
>> > carry all the load is a little unfair. Considering how high the
>> > unemployment rate for the blind is, imagine how much farther along we
>> > would get if even several states had a center of this nature.
>> >
>> > On 7/17/12, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
>> >> Anmol,
>> >> excellent post. WSB does have a good IRS program. Also, the entrance
>> >> requirements were on the website and I hope they still are.
>> >> You have to have good technology skills as well as decent educational
>> >> skills
>> >> to get in. Since you will work for the government, they require you to
>> >> be
>> >> a
>> >> US citizen, able to  pass a drug test, and be willing to relocate.
>> >> They
>> >> also
>> >> find you a job after your training. I was at a job fair and know who I
>> >> ran
>> >> into?
>> >> An IRS rep! He said if I wanted to get a job into that agency, going
>> >> to
>> >> WSB
>> >> was a good idea. He said they get students from there all the time and
>> >> that
>> >> the next class containing 30 students was starting soon.
>> >>
>> >> If you're thinking of going, you have to weigh the pros and cons. Also,
>> >> I
>> >> can definitely see why rehab would send clients there; they gaurantee
>> >> a
>> >> job
>> >> afterward. As Anmol said, this is appealing because more successful
>> >> case
>> >> closures mean they keep the funding they have.
>> >> Ashley
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: Anmol Bhatia
>> >> Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 8:10 PM
>> >> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] LWSB Little Rock Employment Training Programs
>> >>
>> >> Know Arielle I suspect WSB as a whole does not belong to any
>> >> organization.
>> >> They try to remain neutral and WSB actually had a table at the exhabit
>> >> hall
>> >> at the NFB convention. I am not a big fan of WSB to the extend that
>> >> some
>> >> on
>> >> this list might think I am, however, I do not like reading some of the
>> >> comments I read on here from people who do not necessarly know all the
>> >> facts.
>> >> The things Amber has mentioned are valid and credible because she is
>> >> there
>> >> now. If I were considering attending WSB, I would seriously take into
>> >> consideration the things she mentioned. However, WSB does have an
>> >> employment
>> >> track and it is easier for Rehab Counselors to send clients to a
>> >> training
>> >> center which can lead to employment like the WSB rather than an
>> >> independent
>> >> living training center like the NFB training centers that do a good
>> >> job
>> >> in
>> >> providing independent living training, but do not lead to employment.
>> >> I
>> >> personally understand the value of how independent living training is
>> >> important in being successful in employment and most rehab counselors
>> >> do
>> >> as
>> >> well, but we have to justify how we are spending the tax payer money
>> >> to
>> >> largely ignorent sighted society who do not necessarly see the value
>> >> of
>> >> independent training for a blind person.
>> >> To answer the question, the IRS is a promising job that pays the
>> >> starting
>> >> salarry of $45,000 I think with growth opportunity. So you have to
>> >> decide
>> >> if
>> >> you want to put up with some of the things mentioned: bad food,
>> >> unclean
>> >> building, ect for 6 to 9 months and have a good job after that.
>> >> Anmol
>> >> I seldom think about my limitations, and they never make me sad.
>> >> Perhaps
>> >> there is just a touch of yearning at times; but it is vague, like a
>> >> breeze
>> >> among flowers.
>> >> Hellen Keller
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --- On Tue, 7/17/12, Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> From: Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com>
>> >>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] LWSB Little Rock Employment Training Programs
>> >>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>> >>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> >>> Date: Tuesday, July 17, 2012, 6:22 PM
>> >>> I suspect that certain students or
>> >>> staff at WSB are ACB members and
>> >>> try to recruit, but that the WSB itself doesn't have a
>> >>> particular
>> >>> organizational position.
>> >>> Arielle
>> >>>
>> >>> On 7/17/12, Anmol Bhatia <anmolpbhatia at yahoo.com>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>> > Thank you Dave for pointing out that the Little Rock
>> >>> chapter of the NFB
>> >>> > meets at World Services for the Blind. Josh, if
>> >>> according to you they try so
>> >>> > hard to recruit students to the ACB, then why do they
>> >>> allow the NFB meet in
>> >>> > their building and the local chapter of the ACB does
>> >>> not meet there?
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Anmol
>> >>> > I seldom think about my limitations, and they never
>> >>> make me sad. Perhaps
>> >>> > there is just a touch of yearning at times; but it is
>> >>> vague, like a breeze
>> >>> > among flowers.
>> >>> > Hellen Keller
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> > --- On Tue, 7/17/12, Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>> >
>> >>> >> From: Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
>> >>> >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] LWSB Little Rock Employment
>> >>> Training Programs
>> >>> >> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing
>> >>> list"
>> >>> >> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> >>> >> Date: Tuesday, July 17, 2012, 12:25 PM
>> >>> >> I'm going to attend LCB, after
>> >>> >> graduating from college.
>> >>> >> Blessings, Joshua
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> On 7/17/12, Peter Donahue <pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com>
>> >>> >> wrote:
>> >>> >> > Hello Joshua and everyone,
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> >     Let' sleet her decide if she
>> >>> >> would benefit from a complete training
>> >>> >> > program or not. All three NFB centers have
>> >>> >> employment-related assistance and
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > offer training in several specific areas. Have
>> >>> you been
>> >>> >> to an NFB center
>> >>> >> > yourself?
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > Peter Donahue
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > ----- Original Message -----
>> >>> >> > From: "Joshua Lester" <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
>> >>> >> > To: "National Association of Blind Students
>> >>> mailing
>> >>> >> list"
>> >>> >> > <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> >>> >> > Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 11:01 AM
>> >>> >> > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] LWSB Little Rock
>> >>> Employment
>> >>> >> Training Programs
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > She has the skills to take care of herself.
>> >>> >> > She needs job training.
>> >>> >> > Is there an NFB sponsored ATI program?
>> >>> >> > Thanks, Joshua
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > On 7/17/12, Peter Donahue <pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com>
>> >>> >> wrote:
>> >>> >> >> Good morning everyone,
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >>     LWSB, formerly the Arkansas
>> >>> >> Enterprises for the Blind has had a long
>> >>> >> >> and
>> >>> >> >> checkered history concerning its treatment
>> >>> of the
>> >>> >> blind persons it claims
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> to
>> >>> >> >> serve. The conditions you describe have
>> >>> existed
>> >>> >> there for many years. At
>> >>> >> >> one
>> >>> >> >> time it was accredited by the National
>> >>> >> Accreditation Council for Agencies
>> >>> >> >> Serving the Blind and Physically
>> >>> Handicapped (NAC.)
>> >>> >> Its former blind
>> >>> >> >> director was a key figure in NAC. NAC had
>> >>> a
>> >>> >> reputation for condoning
>> >>> >> >> practices that often led to blind persons
>> >>> being
>> >>> >> abused, mistreated, and
>> >>> >> >> in
>> >>> >> >> the case of sheltered workshops being paid
>> >>> less
>> >>> >> than the Federal minimum
>> >>> >> >> wage. NAC'S so-called "Standards of
>> >>> Accreditation"
>> >>> >> failed to address
>> >>> >> >> these
>> >>> >> >> issues. For example the standards called
>> >>> for the
>> >>> >> agency's grounds to be
>> >>> >> >> pleasant but did not require the
>> >>> sheltered
>> >>> >> workshops they accredited to
>> >>> >> >> pay
>> >>> >> >> all employees including the blind
>> >>> employees the
>> >>> >> Federal minimum wage.
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >>     In 1985 NAC held its annual
>> >>> >> meeting in Littlerock and the NFB was
>> >>> >> >> there
>> >>> >> >> to "Greet" them. Both the then Arkansas
>> >>> Enterprises
>> >>> >> for the Blind and the
>> >>> >> >> Arkansas School for the Blind were
>> >>> picketed by the
>> >>> >> NFB. While at AEB a
>> >>> >> >> number of AEB clients told us that there
>> >>> were
>> >>> >> problems and that it needed
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> to
>> >>> >> >> be investigated. I know because Mary and I
>> >>> were on
>> >>> >> that picket line.
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >>     Judging from what I've read
>> >>> >> NAC for practical purposes is gone but
>> >>> >> >> vestiges of its evil doings remain at
>> >>> agencies such
>> >>> >> as LWSB. Amber here's
>> >>> >> >> hoping you will eventually attend an NFB
>> >>> training
>> >>> >> center. These centers
>> >>> >> >> are
>> >>> >> >> a big cut above anything else out there.
>> >>> All the
>> >>> >> best.
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> Peter Donahue
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
>> >>> >> >> To: "National Association of Blind
>> >>> Students mailing
>> >>> >> list"
>> >>> >> >> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> >>> >> >> Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 11:33 PM
>> >>> >> >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] LWSB Little Rock
>> >>> Employment
>> >>> >> Training Programs
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> Amber,
>> >>> >> >> Well, my goodness. I'd have to say first
>> >>> that I
>> >>> >> commend your efforts in
>> >>> >> >> sticking to the facts or trying to. I
>> >>> think you did
>> >>> >> a good job for
>> >>> >> >> someone
>> >>> >> >> who did not have a good experience.  I've
>> >>> also
>> >>> >> heard bad rumors about it.
>> >>> >> >> Second, with all this publicity, I'm real
>> >>> surprised
>> >>> >> that
>> >>> >> >> LWSB continues to stay open and attracting
>> >>> the
>> >>> >> clients it does.
>> >>> >> >> Which program were you in? Independent
>> >>> living? or a
>> >>> >> job program?
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> About rules, personally signing in and out
>> >>> doesn't
>> >>> >> bother me. You are in
>> >>> >> >> a
>> >>> >> >> training setting and with this litigious
>> >>> society,
>> >>> >> they need to account
>> >>> >> >> for
>> >>> >> >> everyone. What if there was an emergency?
>> >>> They need
>> >>> >> to know where
>> >>> >> >> everyone
>> >>> >> >> is. People go missing everyday and are
>> >>> never found.
>> >>> >> Youwouldn't want your
>> >>> >> >> parents or friends or family calling and
>> >>> them
>> >>> >> saying, oh, we do not know
>> >>> >> >> where your son is;  he may be on campus
>> >>> or
>> >>> >> not.
>> >>> >> >> The other thing about the no microwave or
>> >>> fridge
>> >>> >> would bother me. As a
>> >>> >> >> college student, I enjoyed having my own
>> >>> fridge in
>> >>> >> my room.
>> >>> >> >> It gave me some freedom to have a cold
>> >>> drink or
>> >>> >> cold snack when I wanted
>> >>> >> >> to.
>> >>> >> >> Since the cafeteria closed early at 7:30,
>> >>> this was
>> >>> >> definitely nice.
>> >>> >> >> That seems early to me given the fact that
>> >>> I eat
>> >>> >> late at home; between 7
>> >>> >> >> and
>> >>> >> >> 8pm.
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> Anyway, Amber you are making a good
>> >>> personal
>> >>> >> decision to leave. So I wish
>> >>> >> >> you luck in your next decision to find
>> >>> decent
>> >>> >> training or whatever you
>> >>> >> >> need.
>> >>> >> >> I don't remember your intro to us, so I'm
>> >>> not sure
>> >>> >> if you are a current
>> >>> >> >> college student or recent grad.
>> >>> >> >> If you haven't finished school, I hope you
>> >>> can as
>> >>> >> it opens up more doors
>> >>> >> >> to
>> >>> >> >> you.
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> Ashley
>> >>> >> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >>> >> >> From: Herrin, Amber R.
>> >>> >> >> Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 10:36 PM
>> >>> >> >> To: 'National Association of Blind
>> >>> Students mailing
>> >>> >> list'
>> >>> >> >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] LWSB Little Rock
>> >>> Employment
>> >>> >> Training Programs
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> Ian,
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> I am currently at WSB, but am planning to
>> >>> leave on
>> >>> >> Friday.  Here is what
>> >>> >> >> I
>> >>> >> >> have experienced.  I will do my best to
>> >>> give
>> >>> >> only facts and not color
>> >>> >> >> those
>> >>> >> >> facts with my opinion, though before I
>> >>> begin, I
>> >>> >> will clearly state that
>> >>> >> >> if
>> >>> >> >> you are asking for an opinion as to
>> >>> whether or not
>> >>> >> one should attend this
>> >>> >> >> program in order to obtain a job, I would
>> >>> have to
>> >>> >> say no.  But I am not
>> >>> >> >> you
>> >>> >> >> or anyone else for that matter, and what I
>> >>> have
>> >>> >> experienced here has
>> >>> >> >> colored
>> >>> >> >> my opinion, and may not be very reliable.
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> The facts:
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> *Several students (including myself) have
>> >>> had
>> >>> >> valuables go missing.
>> >>> >> >> *The food does not seem to meet health and
>> >>> safety
>> >>> >> codes. (just one
>> >>> >> >> example-there are many-one evening we had
>> >>> chicken
>> >>> >> wings, and though the
>> >>> >> >> outside was hot, the inside was not.  I
>> >>> would
>> >>> >> not mention this, except
>> >>> >> >> this
>> >>> >> >> is not an isolated incident.)
>> >>> >> >> *The showers have light bulbs  (not
>> >>> protected
>> >>> >> by any kind of panels)
>> >>> >> >> inside
>> >>> >> >> the actual stall where water could be
>> >>> accidentally
>> >>> >> splashed.  I brought
>> >>> >> >> this
>> >>> >> >> up as a concern, so they put a cover over
>> >>> mine, but
>> >>> >> mine is not the only
>> >>> >> >> one
>> >>> >> >> that this is the case with (as confirmed
>> >>> by other
>> >>> >> clients.)
>> >>> >> >> *Despite several complaints from many
>> >>> clients, the
>> >>> >> building is full of
>> >>> >> >> bugs.
>> >>> >> >> They say that someone comes regularly to
>> >>> spray, but
>> >>> >> bugs were found even
>> >>> >> >> in
>> >>> >> >> my room, and I am a very clean person.
>> >>> (read as, do
>> >>> >> not leave food in
>> >>> >> >> uncealed containers or dishes with food
>> >>> still on
>> >>> >> them etc.)
>> >>> >> >> *Clients are unable to have microwaves or
>> >>> >> refrigerators in their rooms,
>> >>> >> >> and
>> >>> >> >> so are reduced to coolers full of ice or
>> >>> nothing at
>> >>> >> all except cafeteria
>> >>> >> >> food.  There are microwaves that
>> >>> physically
>> >>> >> exist, but they do not work
>> >>> >> >> very
>> >>> >> >> well.
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> Now I can say that there are other things
>> >>> I could
>> >>> >> talk about, but they
>> >>> >> >> probably come down to personal preference
>> >>> and
>> >>> >> really are just normal
>> >>> >> >> inconveniences that one would encounter on
>> >>> any
>> >>> >> college dorm, except they
>> >>> >> >> are
>> >>> >> >> exaggerated because of the fact that
>> >>> everything is
>> >>> >> scaled down hugely.
>> >>> >> >> So
>> >>> >> >> while, for example, on most college
>> >>> campuses, you
>> >>> >> could go to a dining
>> >>> >> >> hall
>> >>> >> >> at almost any time of day, if you do not
>> >>> come to
>> >>> >> meals at the times
>> >>> >> >> specified, you don't eat meals.  I am
>> >>> sure
>> >>> >> that anyone can argue that
>> >>> >> >> when
>> >>> >> >> in school, you have to work with a
>> >>> particular
>> >>> >> schedule, and while this is
>> >>> >> >> true to some extent, I do take issue with
>> >>> the fact
>> >>> >> that we can't even
>> >>> >> >> have
>> >>> >> >> microwaves or refrigerators in our rooms
>> >>> so that we
>> >>> >> may maintain the
>> >>> >> >> schedules that are most comfortable for
>> >>> us.
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> The last thing I mention is a large thing
>> >>> and may
>> >>> >> not affect anyone, but
>> >>> >> >> I
>> >>> >> >> feel I must mention it, because if I did
>> >>> not, I
>> >>> >> would be doing a great
>> >>> >> >> disservice to anyone considering attending
>> >>> this
>> >>> >> center.
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> Two weeks ago this Friday, I was groped by
>> >>> an
>> >>> >> authority figure.  He was
>> >>> >> >> picking me up from the airport, and I was
>> >>> >> approaching the baggage claim
>> >>> >> >> with
>> >>> >> >> a female passenger from my flight.  This
>> >>> >> authority figure approached me
>> >>> >> >> without announcing himself, put his arm
>> >>> around my
>> >>> >> waist, hugged me to
>> >>> >> >> himself in a tight, possessive manner, and
>> >>> told the
>> >>> >> female passenger who
>> >>> >> >> had
>> >>> >> >> offered to walk with me that he "had it
>> >>> under
>> >>> >> control from there, but
>> >>> >> >> thanks."  After which, he looked down at
>> >>> me
>> >>> >> and said, "How was your trip,
>> >>> >> >> Punkin?  We've missed you!  We're so
>> >>> glad
>> >>> >> you're home!"
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> This man did not announce himself to me in
>> >>> the
>> >>> >> beginning, should have
>> >>> >> >> been
>> >>> >> >> treating me professionally, is old enough
>> >>> to be my
>> >>> >> father, and possibly
>> >>> >> >> even
>> >>> >> >> my grandfather, has only interacted with
>> >>> me
>> >>> >> minimally since my arrival at
>> >>> >> >> the center, I'm 24, etc etc etc.
>> >>> Basically,
>> >>> >> it was wayyy wayyyy beyond
>> >>> >> >> what
>> >>> >> >> one would call professional or even
>> >>> acceptable
>> >>> >> regardless of setting.
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> I cannot tell you whether to attend this
>> >>> center;
>> >>> >> only you can decide that
>> >>> >> >> for yourself.  What I can tell you is
>> >>> that the
>> >>> >> man who did this to me was
>> >>> >> >> reported by me, and, I have discovered,
>> >>> has been
>> >>> >> reported multiple times
>> >>> >> >> by
>> >>> >> >> other females that he has violated in one
>> >>> way or
>> >>> >> another, and still holds
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> a
>> >>> >> >> job here.  I believe there is something
>> >>> big
>> >>> >> going on here that I am
>> >>> >> >> unaware
>> >>> >> >> of, and am only glad to be leaving.
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> I have met some truly wonderful people
>> >>> here, but
>> >>> >> regardless of that, I
>> >>> >> >> could
>> >>> >> >> never suggest that someone attend here.
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> I hope this helps you make your
>> >>> decision.  If
>> >>> >> it does not, please know
>> >>> >> >> that
>> >>> >> >> I wish you all the best.
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> Amber R. Herrin
>> >>> >> >> Mobile: (513) 593-5855
>> >>> >> >> E-mail: herrinar at muohio.edu
>> >>> >> >> "It doesn't matter what you've heard
>> >>> >> >> Impossible is not a word
>> >>> >> >> It's just a reason
>> >>> >> >> For someone not to try
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> Everybody's scared to death
>> >>> >> >> When they decide to take that step
>> >>> >> >> Out on the water
>> >>> >> >> It'll be alright
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> Life is so much more
>> >>> >> >> Than what your eyes are seeing
>> >>> >> >> You will find your way
>> >>> >> >> If you keep believing"
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >>> >> >> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org
>> >>> >> [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>> >>> >> On
>> >>> >> >> Behalf
>> >>> >> >> Of Anmol Bhatia
>> >>> >> >> Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 4:49 PM
>> >>> >> >> To: National Association of Blind Students
>> >>> mailing
>> >>> >> list
>> >>> >> >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] LWSB Little Rock
>> >>> Employment
>> >>> >> Training Programs
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> Ian,
>> >>> >> >> I have never attended LWSB as a trainny,
>> >>> but I used
>> >>> >> to go there on to
>> >>> >> >> stay
>> >>> >> >> during weekends in the 1990s. The only
>> >>> thing I can
>> >>> >> say is that LWSB has
>> >>> >> >> made
>> >>> >> >> alot of changes last couple of years and I
>> >>> would
>> >>> >> think about visiting
>> >>> >> >> there
>> >>> >> >> before deciding one way or the other. They
>> >>> do have
>> >>> >> an option to live off
>> >>> >> >> campus and as far as I am aware that there
>> >>> is not a
>> >>> >> sign in and sign out
>> >>> >> >> policy  after class time. Now they may
>> >>> have
>> >>> >> sign in and sign out policy
>> >>> >> >> during class time to keep count of
>> >>> attendance,
>> >>> >> however, this is know
>> >>> >> >> different signing in and signing out of
>> >>> work which
>> >>> >> everyone blind and
>> >>> >> >> sighted has to do.
>> >>> >> >> The IRS program is one of the best
>> >>> programs there
>> >>> >> and frankly since you
>> >>> >> >> have
>> >>> >> >> to be excepted for a job at one of the IRS
>> >>> offices,
>> >>> >> it is a guarantied
>> >>> >> >> employment after completing the program
>> >>> and they
>> >>> >> start at 45,000 or more.
>> >>> >> >> The food was not the greatest, however, as
>> >>> I said
>> >>> >> above LWSB now known as
>> >>> >> >> World Services for the Blind has made alot
>> >>> of
>> >>> >> changes under the new
>> >>> >> >> director
>> >>> >> >> and frankly I can not tell you how the
>> >>> food is now.
>> >>> >> As I said earlier, I
>> >>> >> >> would make a visit there before making any
>> >>> kind of
>> >>> >> decision.
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> Anmol
>> >>> >> >> I seldom think about my limitations, and
>> >>> they never
>> >>> >> make me sad. Perhaps
>> >>> >> >> there is just a touch of yearning at
>> >>> times; but it
>> >>> >> is vague, like a
>> >>> >> >> breeze
>> >>> >> >> among flowers.
>> >>> >> >> Hellen Keller
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> --- On Mon, 7/16/12, Ian Perrault <iperrault at hotmail.com>
>> >>> >> wrote:
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >>> From: Ian Perrault <iperrault at hotmail.com>
>> >>> >> >>> Subject: [nabs-l] LWSB Little Rock
>> >>> Employment
>> >>> >> Training Programs
>> >>> >> >>> To: "National Association of Blind
>> >>> Students"
>> >>> >> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> >>> >> >>> Date: Monday, July 16, 2012, 4:14 PM
>> >>> >> >>> Hi
>> >>> >> >>> I'm wondering if any of you have
>> >>> attended
>> >>> >> LWSB for one of their
>> >>> >> >>> employment training programs, or LWSB
>> >>> in
>> >>> >> general?
>> >>> >> >>> I'm looking into one of the IRS
>> >>> programs, and
>> >>> >> was reading the manual,
>> >>> >> >>> and it seems like a very strict and
>> >>> structured
>> >>> >> environment, even
>> >>> >> >>> though most of the participants are
>> >>> adults. For
>> >>> >> instance, you have to
>> >>> >> >>> sign out if you want to go somewhere
>> >>> and things
>> >>> >> like that. Have any of
>> >>> >> >>> you attended LWSB? I'd love to hear
>> >>> what your
>> >>> >> experiences were. Since
>> >>> >> >>> I've been to college, it sounds like
>> >>> it's
>> >>> >> not as independent of an
>> >>> >> >>> environment.
>> >>> >> >>> Ian
>> >>> >> >>>
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