[nabs-l] Phones with a fully accessible calender

Wed Mar 7 21:51:11 UTC 2012

Sorry, pressed sent early.  The one about a built in keyboard case or whatever?

On 3/7/12, Justin Young <jty727 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi All!
>
> Ignasi I'm sorry, but I must of missed that post could you send that
> agin here or a link or whatever here?  All the suggestions on this
> thread have been very helpful and appreciated:)
>
> On 3/7/12, Justin Young <jty727 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Thanks for the advice:)
>>
>> On 3/7/12, Katie Wang <bunnykatie6 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I spoke with At&T a little less than a year ago when I was hunting for
>>> my current phone, and apparently they no longer sold any of the Nokia
>>> phones that work with Mobile Speak. I got my Nokia E75 from an on-line
>>> electronic retailer, which was quite an additional investment, but it
>>> has served me very well. To clarify my previous comment, I'm sure
>>> Nokia Symbian phones (the product series that supports Talks and
>>> Mobile Speak) are still being made and sold in  some countries, but we
>>> can no longer get them through any of the US carriers, and I believe
>>> that the same is true for Windows Mobile smart phones such as the HTC
>>> Ozone. If you are really not ready for a touch-screen device and are
>>> not interested in doing much web browsing/emailing on your phone
>>> anyway, then getting a phone through a third-party vendor on-line and
>>> have Verizon subsidize you for the purchase of Mobile Speak may be the
>>> way to go. Good luck!
>>> Katie
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3/6/12, Ignasi Cambra <ignasicambra at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> AT&T definitely sells some subsidized Nokia phones. At least they did
>>>> not too long ago...
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On Mar 6, 2012, at 7:44 PM, Matt McCubbin <mgoalball at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Justin,
>>>>> Nokia is the manufacturer of the N82/N86. However, these phones won't
>>>>> be
>>>>> compatible with Verizon's CDMA network technology. You would have to
>>>>> switch to AT&T or TMobile to use these phones.
>>>>> Also, Nokia phones aren't sold through any of the major US carriers,
>>>>> so
>>>>> you would need to purchase one at a much higher cost, either new from
>>>>> an
>>>>> electronics retailer, or used.
>>>>> If you wish to stay with Verizon as your carrier, you have a couple
>>>>> options. However, if you want an accessible calendar on your phone,
>>>>> you
>>>>> will need to invest in a smartphone.
>>>>> 1. The iPhone starting at $99. You stated earlier that the iPhone's
>>>>> touchscreen didn't really work for you. Frustration is understandable,
>>>>> there is a definite learning-curve with this device. There are
>>>>> numerous
>>>>> resources available on the Internet to help you get up and going with
>>>>> the
>>>>> phone. Also, the National Braille Press is currently revising their
>>>>> "getting started with the iPhone" book. The calendar on the iPhone is
>>>>> completely accessible, and offers the location features you asked
>>>>> about.
>>>>> 2. An Android phone. With the right software, Android is quite
>>>>> accessible.
>>>>> In adition, some of Verizon's droid phones come with dedicated
>>>>> physical
>>>>> keyboards. Mobile Accessibility from Code Factory for $99 makes
>>>>> Android
>>>>> quite accesible, and offers more options to customize the
>>>>> screen-reader
>>>>> than VoiceOver on the iPhone. It's not quite like the out-of-the-box
>>>>> experience of the iPhone, but with MA, many aps for Android are made
>>>>> accessible. Plus, you can often get Android devices for free or
>>>>> inexpensively with a two-year contract.
>>>>> I strongly encourage you to spend a good amount of time with either
>>>>> operating system, Verizon offers at least a 14-day return policy.
>>>>> I hope this helps, and feel free to email me off-list if you have
>>>>> additional questions.
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>> Matt
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 3/6/2012 6:25 PM, Justin Young wrote:
>>>>>> Thanks a bunch for all of your feedback.  Who makes the Nokia N82/86?
>>>>>> That may be an optionworth at least looking at.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks again:)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 3/6/12, Ashley Bramlett<bookwormahb at earthlink.net>  wrote:
>>>>>>> Maybe a tactile overlay would help with the touch screen. I'm old
>>>>>>> fashioned
>>>>>>> and have a regular phone; it may have a calendar, but if it does it
>>>>>>> does
>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>> talk. It only talks when incoming calls come in. I
>>>>>>> use another calendar to stay organized. I wish NFB would push for
>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>> accessible phones. Come on, not everyone wants a smart phone;
>>>>>>> however,
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> would like access to the on screen menus; I want to know who called
>>>>>>> yesterday in my missed calls list; and I want to read texts. But No
>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>> want the bells and whistles of the I phone.
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: Katie Wang
>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2012 2:05 PM
>>>>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Phones with a fully accessible calender
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Justin,
>>>>>>> Unfortunately, most smart phones these days feature a touch screen,
>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>> you might have to get used to that interface if you want something
>>>>>>> more sophisticated than the Haven. I currently have a Nokia Symbian
>>>>>>> phone with Mobile Speaks, which is a third-party screen reader, but
>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>> you might have heard Nokia has discontinued that line of products.
>>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>>> not a big fan of touch screens either but have resigned myself to
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> fact that I will have to get an Iphone at some point in the future--
>>>>>>> While it does come with a steep learning curve, I know plenty of
>>>>>>> blind
>>>>>>> people who love their Apple devices and am confident that you can
>>>>>>> master the technique too with some practice. Just my thoughts!
>>>>>>> Katie
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 3/6/12, Justin Young<jty727 at gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>>>>>> This is the phone I currently have.  When I tried to upgrade they
>>>>>>>> didn't really have much to offer in this regard.  So, I kept my
>>>>>>>> Haven
>>>>>>>> because it was the best one I was familiar with.  I tried the touch
>>>>>>>> screen thing, but became a bit frustrated with it.  So, I'm curious
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> there are any suggestions out there.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 3/6/12, Ashley Bramlett<bookwormahb at earthlink.net>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>> which cell carrier are you using?
>>>>>>>>> The Haven from verizon is a  talking phone if you use verizon; not
>>>>>>>>> sure
>>>>>>>>> though if the calendar talks.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>> From: Justin Young
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2012 12:32 AM
>>>>>>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>>>>>>> Subject: [nabs-l] Phones with a fully accessible calender
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi to All!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hope you are all doing well.  I'm not sure if any could answer
>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>> question.  I am looking to possibly in a few months upgrade my
>>>>>>>>> phone.
>>>>>>>>> I am looking for possibilities of anything with an accessible
>>>>>>>>> calender
>>>>>>>>> where you can enter the location of the appointments and is
>>>>>>>>> non-touch
>>>>>>>>> screen.  I tried that once and it didn't really work for me.  Any
>>>>>>>>> suggestions you could offer is much appreciated as always!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks in advance:)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Justin
>>>>>>>>>
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