[nabs-l] adult discussions and high school students was RE: Long-Distance Dating

Sat Sep 8 03:25:32 UTC 2012

that would be great raymond thanks

On 9/7/12, raymond lombardi <ray214 at gmail.com> wrote:
> I can send you the link off of list.
>
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> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "tiffany miles" <qtiffany1 at gmail.com>
> Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 11:18 PM
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] adult discussions and high school students was RE:
> Long-Distance Dating
>
>> do u know where i can find the accessable movies that were on
>> blincemart.com  i have a lot i am looking for
>>
>> On 9/7/12, raymond lombardi <ray214 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> which movies are you looking for? I might have them and then some.
>>>
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>> From: "tiffany miles" <qtiffany1 at gmail.com>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 11:09 PM
>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] adult discussions and high school students was RE:
>>> Long-Distance Dating
>>>
>>>> Hi all my name is Tiffany and I have a question I am trying to find
>>>> free audio descriptive movies they were accessable on
>>>> blindmicemart.com but are no longer there does anyone know where i can
>>>> go to find movies like the ones on blindmicemart.com
>>>>
>>>> On 9/7/12, Chris Nusbaum <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Joshua,
>>>>>
>>>>> Please don't use me as a reason to tell somebody that a certain
>>>>> discussion
>>>>> can't be had on this list. Although I'm not in a position to comment
>>>>> on
>>>>> Koby's original question because of my age and lack of experience on
>>>>> this
>>>>> topic, I do believe it is a valid question and one which is on-topic
>>>>> for
>>>>> this list, or at least for the list as it was intended to be. If a
>>>>> discussion about having sex as a blind person is not appropriate for a
>>>>> high
>>>>> school student such as myself to read, why do the high schools we go
>>>>> to
>>>>> offer sex education classes as part of their curricula? If we are not
>>>>> mature
>>>>> enough to even read a question which has any sort of sexual
>>>>> implication,
>>>>> why
>>>>> is time set aside during the school year to have class discussions
>>>>> about
>>>>> the
>>>>> truth about sex? If we are to be so sheltered as to never even learn
>>>>> the
>>>>> first thing about sex until we are full-grown adults, why are our
>>>>> parents
>>>>> encouraged by their children's schools and just about everybody else
>>>>> who
>>>>> knows anything about the education of children to teach their children
>>>>> about
>>>>> sex at an early age? We learn about sex, and our parents are
>>>>> encouraged
>>>>> (and
>>>>> often do) teach us about it because it is a fact of life; it is a part
>>>>> of
>>>>> the real world, whether you like it or not. Too often young people as
>>>>> young
>>>>> as 13 or 14 are peer-pressured to have sex or to say or do something
>>>>> that
>>>>> has a sexual implication. This is why I believe it is important that
>>>>> we
>>>>> learn about sex at an early age; the good, the bad, and the ugly of
>>>>> it.
>>>>> Then
>>>>> we will be able to make a truly informed decision as to what we will
>>>>> do
>>>>> in
>>>>> regards to sex. Conversely, if we are sheltered, as you suggest, and
>>>>> don't
>>>>> learn the first thing about sex or similar subjects, we will not be
>>>>> properly
>>>>> prepared for the real world as it is today. While it is important that
>>>>> parents teach their children morals, I believe it is equally important
>>>>> that
>>>>> they be honest with their children about what is really out there in
>>>>> the
>>>>> real world and the consequences of getting involved in things like sex
>>>>> at
>>>>> an
>>>>> early age. While I appreciate your efforts to keep the list free of
>>>>> inappropriate discussion and protect me and our other high school
>>>>> students
>>>>> from inappropriate content, I feel that you are doing it to the
>>>>> extreme,
>>>>> borderlining over-protectedness and sheltering. I joined this list as
>>>>> well
>>>>> as others knowing that I would be exposed to some parts of the real
>>>>> world
>>>>> which are somewhat adult in nature, but also knowing that I had the
>>>>> option
>>>>> not to comment on or follow those threads I felt uncomfortable with
>>>>> reading,
>>>>> and that there were many people on this list and others who are much
>>>>> older
>>>>> than I and therefore might talk about things I haven't been exposed to
>>>>> as
>>>>> much yet. But I don't have a problem with this, as I respect
>>>>> everybody's
>>>>> right to freedom of speech. In short, the fact of my being a high
>>>>> school
>>>>> student as well as a member of this list should not and (in my
>>>>> opinion)
>>>>> does
>>>>> not restrict the freedom of speech of any other member of this list to
>>>>> discuss what he/she wants to discuss, as long as it remains on topic
>>>>> for
>>>>> this list; that is, that it has something to do with blindness and/or
>>>>> being
>>>>> a student. If the moderator feels that the discussion is off-topic, he
>>>>> is
>>>>> the one whose job it is to tell whoever started the discussion. But
>>>>> just
>>>>> don't use my age as support for your claim that something is
>>>>> inappropriate
>>>>> for this list.
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris Nusbaum
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>> Behalf
>>>>> Of Joshua Lester
>>>>> Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 9:47 PM
>>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Long-Distance Dating
>>>>>
>>>>> Koby: this is off topic, especially since there are high schoolers on
>>>>> here.
>>>>> Thanks, Joshua
>>>>> ________________________________________
>>>>> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf
>>>>> of
>>>>> Koby [kobycox at gmail.com]
>>>>> Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 8:42 PM
>>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>>> Cc: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Long-Distance Dating
>>>>>
>>>>> All,
>>>>> What should I do If this girl wants to have sex when I see her?
>>>>> Koby
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sep 6, 2012, at 12:53 AM, Beth <thebluesisloose at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi, Arielle and all,
>>>>>>    Jason is the love I thought I'd never have.  YEs, we get on each
>>>>> other's nerves.  YEs, he argues with me sometimes, but people call him
>>>>> no
>>>>> good, bad, really stupid, whuatever you say they say it about him.  I
>>>>> think
>>>>> Jason has a sweet side to him.  I love Jason so much and we met in
>>>>> June.
>>>>> His mom was able to pay for the flight, but I'm afraid she won't this
>>>>> December or so.  I'm trying to make it easy for her to pay for it
>>>>> again
>>>>> so
>>>>> I
>>>>> can be down there with him.  I want Jason to know that just because
>>>>> he's
>>>>> blind, heart issues and all that, that doesn't mean that his life is
>>>>> over.
>>>>> HE can marry, he can have a relationship, he can have kids if he so
>>>>> desires,
>>>>> and he may engage in sex if that's whuat he wants.  Some men are
>>>>> nervous
>>>>> about sex and relationships, even Jason.  But with the help of my
>>>>> coaxing
>>>>> and calm manner, he was able to enjoy himself with me.  At least he
>>>>> doesn't
>>>>> engage in the trade of child porn and other inappropriate things that
>>>>> sighted men would engage in.  He has a good sense of right and wrong.
>>>>> He
>>>>> loves chocolate for breakfast. (hee hee), though I prefer eggs myself.
>>>>> If
>>>>> I
>>>>> look back and turn the clock back, I see that I have not made a bad
>>>>> choice
>>>>> as some are led to believe.  Honestly, I have insecurity issues, and I
>>>>> see
>>>>> myself at fault for a stupid email I sent to his mother because I was
>>>>> truly
>>>>> upset at sommething he did that was really inappropriate and I don't
>>>>> want
>>>>> to
>>>>> share with this list.  I love Jason no matter what he does to me or
>>>>> whuaft
>>>>> I
>>>>> do to him.  All I can do is say that it's emotionally trying not
>>>>> having
>>>>> Jason near me, but this relationship is good when the winds of good
>>>>> fortune
>>>>> blow in our direction.  Arielle, Im glad at least you have a good
>>>>> boyfriend.
>>>>> Btw, for all of us, how can I make up with Jason's family without
>>>>> sending
>>>>> an
>>>>> email?  I really want to see him again, and supposedly his mom resents
>>>>> me
>>>>> for sending that email.  That's the only thing about the relationship
>>>>> that
>>>>> I
>>>>> don't like very much.
>>>>>> Beth
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com
>>>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org Date sent: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 23:01:32 -0600
>>>>>> Subject: [nabs-l] Long-Distance Dating
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>> Cindy, I generally agree with you about keeping this list to
>>>>>> blindness-related discussions. However, I do think long-distance
>>>>>> dating issues like the one Koby brought up are perhaps more relevant
>>>>>> to us blind students than they are for sighted students, especially
>>>>>> those of us who are involved in the NFB.  This is because, for many
>>>>>> reasons, some of us want to date other blind/NFB people and because
>>>>>> our community is so spread out, we may often end up in similar
>>>>>> situations where we have to decide if we want to enter a
>>>>>> long-distance
>>>>>> relationship with someone we know from this community. So I'd like to
>>>>>> offer a brief response on-list and hope that others in similar
>>>>>> situations might find it helpful.
>>>>>> During college I was in a long-distance relationship with someone I
>>>>>> met through NFB for about a year. In hindsight I do not regret that
>>>>>> decision at all. I had fun, learned a lot and he and I are still
>>>>>> friends. I will also say that parts of it were emotionally very hard
>>>>>> to deal with--in my particular case an airplane ticket between my
>>>>>> location and his cost nearly $500 and we did not see each other for
>>>>>> five months, which was emotionally trying at times. I do not think I
>>>>>> would do another long-distance relationship and my current boyfriend
>>>>>> and I will be making an effort to ensure we will not have to be
>>>>>> living
>>>>>> in separate places for any length of time. However, again, I enjoyed
>>>>>> the one experience I had overall and learned a lot from it. I think
>>>>>> if
>>>>>> you and this girl really like each other and you can find a way to
>>>>>> see
>>>>>> each other on a somewhat regular basis, there's no harm in trying and
>>>>>> you can always decide later on to just be friends. However, it is
>>>>>> something to give a little serious thought to before you make that
>>>>>> kind of commitment. You also want to talk with her and make sure that
>>>>>> the two of you have similar expectations for how serious of a
>>>>>> relationship this will be and how often you will be able to see each
>>>>>> other. It will be hard if one of you is much more enthused about the
>>>>>> relationship than the other. But if the two of you are generally on
>>>>>> the same page and are really committed to it, it can be fun.
>>>>>> Hope this helps,
>>>>>> Arielle
>>>>>>
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