[nabs-l] Lines

Tue Apr 2 10:55:21 UTC 2013

Good morning,

         It seems to me, in the end your scores speak louder, and 
with my clarity than if you happen to have taken extra time.  I mean, 
who cares?
Car09:35 PM 3/31/2013, justin williams wrote:
>I take the time and a half.  Think what you want.  I can learn to be fast on
>a job.  I was one of the top agents at Teleperformance; still got cheated in
>the end.  I was one of the best agents in the call center. (Grin.)  No but
>seriously, I use any tool available to me.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kirt Manwaring
>Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2013 12:26 AM
>To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>Subject: Re:                    [nabs-l] Lines
>
>Justin,
>   In high school I took the extra time way more than I should have; in
>hindsight, I was using it to hide the fact that I wasn't as efficient with
>braille as my peers were with print.  I know this is an entirely different
>subject, but I think extra time is legitimate only when inherently visual
>information like pictures and complex graphs need to be presented tactally
>or verbally.  Even then, it ought to be used with care because, as has been
>said ad noseum, you can't get the "time and a half" on the job.
>   Best,
>Kirt
>
>On 3/31/13, justin williams <justin.williams2 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Do you take the time and a half on tests?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Arielle
> > Silverman
> > Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 11:04 PM
> > To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> > Subject: [nabs-l] Lines
> >
> > Hi all,
> > Thank you Kirt for making such a great point. When I was growing up my
> > parents and friends often pressured me to use my blindness so that we
> > could cut lines and sometimes my parents even required it without
> > giving me a choice about it. I used to try and justify our behavior
> > but in  the end when I did this I always felt a deep sense of shame
> > and anger, but I could never figure out why. Since then I have learned
> > about self-perception theory in psychology classes and I think I
> > understand why it bothers me (and many of
> > us) so much. Basically, self-perception theory posits that we draw
> > conclusions about ourselves by observing our own behavior. I think
> > whenever I used my blindness as a reason to get a guest pass and skip
> > the line, it made me start to see myself as a handicapped or crippled
> > person, which was very upsetting. For some people who have trouble
> > standing for long periods of time, or who have guide dogs who get
> > uncomfortable standing out in the sun, cutting in line seems
> > legitimate. But if we can physically handle the lines, accepting the
> > special passes doesn't do us any real favors. I insist on standing in
> > line with everyone else because I want to see myself (and my fellow
> > blind friends) as strong, healthy, normal people. I feel I have little
> > to gain by skipping the lines, and much to lose in terms of
> > self-esteem and self-respect. I think every time we take an
> > accommodation, we need to think about what we are gaining from that
> > accommodation vs. what we are potentially losing in terms of normalcy.
> > If an accommodation like a piece of technology is  truly necessary, it
> > will give enough benefit that it's worth the self-esteem hit. But if
> > an accommodation isn't really needed, I think we have more to lose
> > than we have to gain by accepting it. For this same reason I also do
> > not write off blindness as a reason to claim a tax deduction.
> > I am proud to be (barely) earning enough income to be required to pay
> > taxes and paying taxes just like anyone else in my income bracket
> > makes me feel good about myself and where I belong in the world.
> > There's also the argument that if we want to be allowed the same
> > rights sighted people get, we need to be willing to saddle the extra
> > responsibilities. If we want to be allowed to ride amusement park
> > rides without discrimination, we need to be willing to wait in line.
> > It sends a mixed message to skip the line and then insist on equal
> > treatment by the ride operators, just like it sends a mixed message to
> > request unnecessary extra time on tests and then ask for a professor's
> > letter of recommendation.
> > Again, though I'm not a dog user, I think having a guide dog is a
> > legitimate reason to not wait in lines.
> > Arielle
> >
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