[nabs-l] Studying Law
justin williams
justin.williams2 at gmail.com
Thu Apr 25 11:38:50 UTC 2013
Folks, this is good advice. I wish I would have done that for my career
especially when I was a psych major. That's why I am back in school now at
thirty-three. Do exactly what she says. It is the best idea ever.
-----Original Message-----
From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kaiti Shelton
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 11:14 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Studying Law
One of the things I think would really be beneficial for you is if you sit
down with your advisor and formulate a plan. My department requires
everyone to make a plan at least for the duration of time they're in school
there, some choose to plan further ahead like for grad school or internships
from the start. This plan mapps out short and long term goals, the skills
you want to master, and the courses you need to take to fulfill all your
requirements. You can tick these off as you go and you're supposed to
update your list to make it more precise as things change. In theory, your
list should shrink in time as the number of requirements to complete
decreases, but your goals should become much more specific and from there
you can start planning further ahead. For example, since I'm now done with
Freshman year I have a three year plan, plus a list of possible internship
sites I might want to keep an eye on for later. I can see the things I've
improved on over this year as well as the things I want to work on, and used
the planning sheet to keep myself on track for scheduling next semester.
It's a great way to keep yourself on track and organized. You can do this
on your own if you're comfortable just perusing your school web sites for
the information, but since you're looking more long term to an undergrad
degree and law school I think it would be great to do some of this with an
advisor's input, or map something out and let them know what you think and
see how that stacks up.
Good luck.
On 4/25/13, Kaiti Shelton <crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Yes, I even have heard that some lawyers specialize in technology law.
> They primarily work in areas like the Cilicon Valley in California
> (Sorry... I've written too many papers as of late and can't figure out
> how to spell things any more), but just about everything has a
> practical application. Heck, I know a pre-med major who is
> considering acutally going into medical law instead of becoming a
> doctor, so just about anything goes as long as you do it well.
>
> On 4/25/13, Kirt <kirt.crazydude at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Arielle, The way I understand it, law schools don't really care what
>> your undergraduate degree is. If anything, I've been encouraged to
>> stay away from things like history and political science if I want to
>> go to law school, most people I've talked to seemed to think law
>> schools appreciate more diversity nowadays. So, the way I've heard
>> it, your undergraduate major doesn't matter nearly as much as how
>> well you perform in whatever major you choose. You might want to
>> think about majors that would give you practical experience similar
>> to what you would be doing in the field of law. For example, an
>> English major might get you used to riding large papers, which is an
>> integral part of being a lawyer. A philosophy major would teach you
>> all about how to make logical arguments Which are internally
>> consistent And valid. Obviously, that would be invaluable preparation
>> for law. For that matter, something like a communications major
>> would give you public speaking experience, as well as teach you how
>> to present your case is effectively. If you wanted to be one of those
>> lawyers who actually argue in court, this could be very helpful.
>> Majors like economics, business, accounting and the light could be
>> incredible ass sex if you wanted to do corporate or financial wall
>> later on. For that matter, the mental work out you would get from
>> something like engineering or mathematics would serve you well later on.
>> So,
>> if you want to go to law school, I would say pick a major that you
>> like and do very well with it.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Apr 25, 2013, at 7:07 PM, Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> You might also talk to a history or political science advisor to see
>>> if they've worked with pre-law students before and what classes they
>>> would recommend. (I'm guessing many law students start out in
>>> political science, right?) If you're planning to transfer to a
>>> four-year university after getting an A.A. degree, it might not much
>>> matter what your A.A. is in, but like Kaiti said there might be
>>> classes you can take at the A.A. phase to help you get a head start
>>> on pre-law requirements.
>>> Arielle
>>>
>>> On 4/25/13, Kaiti Shelton <crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi Helga,
>>>>
>>>> So just so I understand, you're working on an associates now, then
>>>> transfering to FAU for your undergrad, and then law school after that?
>>>> I don't see why it wouldn't help, but I also don't know how an
>>>> associates degree would tie in to law school exactly. I would talk
>>>> to the English advisor; I'm not sure what they'll be able to do, as
>>>> if I'm understanding your plans I think your bachelors degree
>>>> advisor might have more to do with the law aspect of things, but
>>>> it's worth a shot. Getting set up with your advisor and letting
>>>> them know sounds like the first step in the right direction; even
>>>> as someone with a concentration in English an advisor might be able
>>>> to steer you towards other classes that might be able to be taken
>>>> early and transfer over to FAU so you don't have to spend as much
>>>> or take them twice depending on the circumstances, or they can give
>>>> you a head start on learning the law material. For example, I know
>>>> a girl who's a history pre-law major here who's advisor suggested she
take Philosophy of Law now.
>>>> Slightly different subject, but it makes sense. Give the advisor a
>>>> try.
>>>>
>>>> On 4/24/13, justin williams <justin.williams2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Go get them. Good luck.
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Helga
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 1:52 AM
>>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Studying Law
>>>>>
>>>>> Hey Kaiti. this is Helga. I just wanted to tell you that I'm doing
>>>>> an English major in order to transfer to FAU (Florida Atlantic
>>>>> Univercity)
>>>>> because in Palm Beach State College I still need to complete my
>>>>> ASsociates of ARTS degree before transfering to FAU. Do you think
>>>>> I should speak to an English department adviser in order to tell
>>>>> him or her my carreer plans?
>>>>> I
>>>>> was just wondering. Thank you so much. God bless!! :)
>>>>> -----Original
>>>>> Message-----
>>>>> From: Kaiti Shelton
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 11:23 PM
>>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Studying Law
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Helga,
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, Suzanne is right. The way I'm set up I have my disability
>>>>> coordinator, who does all my testing and school accomodations,
>>>>> makes sure I have everything I need in terms of textbooks and that
>>>>> the IT department has "Jaws-proofed," the web sites so I can get
>>>>> to all the information.
>>>>> She's
>>>>> great, but like other disability services personelle across the
>>>>> board at colleges that's what she specializes in. She wouldn't be
>>>>> able to give me advice on my major because that's stuff she
>>>>> doesn't know. I'd set up a meeting with an advisor for your
>>>>> major. If you've already declared yourself as pre-law, you should
>>>>> be able to go to that department or your college within the
>>>>> university whatever it may be called to find out who that is.
>>>>> If
>>>>> you've declared something else as a lead up to law school, like
>>>>> business, human rights, international studies, history,
>>>>> psychology, etc, then you'd want to go to that department and
>>>>> start with that advisor first, letting them know that you want to
>>>>> persue law school after completing your undergrad from the get go.
>>>>> My advisor, for example, is a music therapist, so he has the
>>>>> background and experience to advise me and the other music therapy
>>>>> majors on what steps to take in order to fulfill our academic
>>>>> requirements.
>>>>> Once you find out who your advisor is you should be able to have a
>>>>> lot of your questions explained, and they'll be there for you to
>>>>> go over things each time before you schedule new classes which is
>>>>> really nice because sometimes they catch mistakes you miss when
>>>>> trying to plan your schedule on your own. Most advisors are also
>>>>> free by email or phone to discuss other questions throughout the
>>>>> year as needed.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sometimes students will have two advisors though. For example, I
>>>>> know people who are double majoring who have a separate advisor
>>>>> for each of their majors, and those advisors can communicate with
>>>>> each other through the mutual student to make sure all the
>>>>> requirements are being met. I kind of know how this works to an
>>>>> extent, because although I don't have a separate advisor for my
>>>>> psych minor I still have to make sure I follow the psych
>>>>> department guidelines and get in touch with someone who is a psych
>>>>> department advisor in case I'm confused or need clarification on
>>>>> the guidelines for getting the minor. This is because although
>>>>> music therapy uses a lot of psych, it really isn't my advisor's
>>>>> responsibility to know the full ins and outs of other majors and
>>>>> minors outside of the one he advises for. I don't want to make
>>>>> generalizations, but so far in my experiences with different
>>>>> colleges that's how I've seen it work.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hope that helps. Good luck.
>>>>>
>>>>> Kaiti,
>>>>> Music Therapy major, University of Dayton class of 2016.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 4/24/13, Suzanne Germano <sgermano at asu.edu> wrote:
>>>>>> You should talk to the adviser of the major you are in. Most
>>>>>> colleges make you meet with the adviser before registering for
classes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 5:46 PM, Helga
>>>>>> <helga.schreiber at hotmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Kaiti. Thanks for the advice, I'll definitely will join the
>>>>>>> Blind lawyers list. Yeah, I actually have a dissability advisor
>>>>>>> at my school, but she is not really a good help regarding Law
>>>>>>> classes, and she is not really good help with my general classes
>>>>>>> that I'm taking right now even though she gives me accomodations
>>>>>>> letters to give to my professors. Is your adviser a regular
>>>>>>> adviser, or a disability adviser? Just curious. Do you think I
>>>>>>> should talk to a regular adviser, not a disability? By the way,
>>>>>>> What carreer are you studying, and what college do you attend?
>>>>>>> Just wondering.
>>>>>>> I'm actually from Florida, and I attend Palmbeach State College
>>>>>>> of Boca Raton. Thanks so much.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Kaiti Shelton
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 8:02 PM
>>>>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Studying Law
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Helga,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Although I'm not studying law, I may have a few tips that can be
>>>>>>> of help.
>>>>>>> If you go to nfbnet.org and click the link that says "Join or
>>>>>>> Drop NFB lists," the same page where this one was located, you
>>>>>>> can find the blindlaw email list. Although there are probably a
>>>>>>> few law students on the NABS list somewhere, the law list would
>>>>>>> probably be a more direct way of reaching them and other people
>>>>>>> who have already gone through school and can offer their advice.
>>>>>>> Second, if you have an advisor at your school who knows of your
>>>>>>> pre-law plans they should be able to explain the best order to
>>>>>>> take classes in and what you'll need to be successful. I always
>>>>>>> consult with my advisor well before scheduling not only to make
>>>>>>> sure my next semester courses are what they should be, but also
>>>>>>> to make sure I'm on track for the future. Since he's been there
>>>>>>> and done that in my chosen career too, it's also nice meeting
>>>>>>> with him because I can ask him questions and see what he has to say
from his experiences.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hope these help.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 4/24/13, Helga <helga.schreiber at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi guys, this is Helga. What's up? I just
>>>>>>>> would like to ask you guys a question. How many of you are
>>>>>>>> studying the Law carreer, or planning to study to become a
>>>>>>>> Lawyer? I was just curious since I'm studying to become a
>>>>>>>> Lawyer. Also, How do you handle your books and materials in
>>>>>>>> order to study for Law, and what kind of classes you are taking
>>>>>>>> or need to take in order to complete this carreer? Did you read
>>>>>>>> your books and materials in Braille in order to study for it? I
>>>>>>>> was just wondering since I'm still Freshman in college, and I'm
>>>>>>>> not quite there yet in knowing what classes to take in order to
>>>>>>>> achieve this future carreer. What class you guys recommend me
>>>>>>>> to take first? Actually, I'm just now working on completing my
>>>>>>>> general classes first. Thanks so much. God bless!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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