[nabs-l] Is providing tutors or aids under the ADA for public colleges?

[Suzanne Germano]

Itstead of refering to the person as an aid say you need a notetaker for
the class and justify why. Is the person you need to help you acedically
understand the class which would be a tutor or help you access what you may
have missed by the teacher writing on the board but not saying what they
were writing?

Disabled students services cannot choose how to accomodate. They can't tell
me to use audible books when I am a large print user. At my school they
scan the books but there were some I said I would do better if I had it
large printed on 11 by 17 paper because questions refered to diagrams on
other pages and a physical book would be much more efficient. They gladly
printed it.

Tutors might be able to be paid for by rehab. My VR is done as supported ed
by Foundation for Blind Children. VR still funds everything but foundation
is like the middleman and I was told if I need a tutor one would be
provided.

I believe it is vety important to be able to justify why you are asking for
a service.

If it is an academic tutor you need most school do provide that through the
department.

On Saturday, December 7, 2013, Bobbi Pompey wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Your college is required to provide you with accommodations, but they can
> choose how to do so. For example, providing you with a test online instead
> of having someone read it to you.
> If they feel that you can access the materials through some other means,
> then they may not provide an actual person to age.
>
> I had a similar experience at my college, that is also state-funded.
>
> Bobbi A. L. Pompey
> (336) 988-6375
> pompey2010 at yahoo.com <javascript:;>
> http://pompey2050.wix.com/bobbi-pompey
>
> > On Dec 7, 2013, at 12:50 AM, Brandon Keith Biggs <
> brandonkeithbiggs at gmail.com <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> > I am taking a class at my college and the Accessibility services
> department insists the ADA doesn't say they need to provide an aid or tutor
> for me in a language class. In my last college I had aids for all my math
> and science classes. At this new college, language is just as hard and both
> colleges are state colleges.
> > I am wondering what is the deal with one giving aid and tutoring and the
> other firmly saying they don't need to?
> > I believe section 504 of the ADA is where all this is talked about.
> > This is from:
> > http://www.wrightslaw.com/info/section504.ada.peer.htm
> >
> > "no qualified individual with a disability in the United States shall be
> excluded from, denied the benefits of, or be subjected to discrimination
> under" any program or activity that either receives Federal financial
> assistance"
> >
> > Isn't not providing eyes for a class that is focused on pictures
> discrimination? Then isn't not providing eyes for notes with pictures
> discrimination?
> >
> > "providing an opportunity to participate or benefit that is unequal to
> that provided others,"
> >
> > Despite the improper English, That means that I need to be able to be
> equal with my class mates in and out of class. In order for me to be able
> to ask the teacher questions, I need to be able to understand the materiel
> enough to ask questions.
> >
> > "providing different or separate benefits or services, unless it is
> necessary to provide benefits or services that are as effective as those
> provided to others."
> >
> > In this case it is necessary to provide a tutor so that I am able to
> completely understand lectures and complete assignments in a timely manor
> that helps me understand, like the assignments are supposed to do.
> >
> > "For benefits or services provided to be "equally effective," they must
> afford students with disabilities an equal opportunity to obtain the same
> result, gain the same benefit, or reach the same level of achievement as
> other students."
> >
> > Without a tutor and an aid, the class that I am in is not providing me
> with enough materials for me to succeed. I must have a tutor and an aid to
> both grasp what is talked about in class partly and to go over materiel
> after class to bridge any gaps I miss-understood or recorded wrong because
> the teacher was spelling too fast on the board.
> >
> > "have the effect of defeating or impairing accomplishment of the
> objectives of the education program"
> >
> > I am not learning my language, so I need help!
> >
> > "Examples of accommodations and modifications include modifying rules,
> policies or practices; removing architectural or communication barriers; or
> providing aids, services, or assistive technology."
> >
> > HM, says I need an "Aid" right there... Not tutor though.
> >
> > http://www.wrightslaw.com/info/section504.ada.peer.htm
> >
> > If that is not the section state colleges fall under, please let me
> know. Or if there are any other laws that I should know about, please let
> me know. Otherwise I will send this email to my counselors and their boss
> so they can see the quotes from the ADA.
> > Thanks,
> >
> > --
> > Brandon Keith Biggs
> >
> >
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