[nabs-l] Forum for discussing social/emotional issues with other blind folks

Chris Nusbaum dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com
Tue Feb 19 04:25:24 UTC 2013 

Desiree and all,

This sounds like a great idea and one which I am interested in, especially
since the seminar we are currently planning here in Maryland will be about
social issues as they relate to blindness. Please let me know when you have
this list started so we can mention it at our seminar as a welcoming and
supportive place where our attendees can go if they have any further
questions after the discussions we will have. Also, perhaps you and/or
anyone else who might have ideas for this list could join us on some of the
conference calls the Maryland student division board will be having to
discuss what we would like to see on the agenda for such a seminar. We will
try to take the ideas we get and incorporate them into our agenda, assuming
we can find speakers. If any of you have any ideas for topics you would like
to see covered at a seminar about social issues related to blindness or if
you live in the Maryland area and you would be interested in speaking on a
certain topic, please don't hesitate to write me off-list or call me (my
phone number is in my signature below.) I'm sorry to divert a little from
the new list idea itself to put out a little feeler for seminar ideas; I
guess that's what we PR people do. <Smile>

Chris Nusbaum, Co-Chair
Public Relations Committee
Maryland Association of Blind Students
Phone: (443) 547-2409


-----Original Message-----
From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Desiree Oudinot
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 11:06 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Forum for discussing social/emotional issues with
other blind folks

Hi all,
I've just done a trial run with Yahoogroups, and it seems very easy to set
up and manage. I wouldn't mind setting up the group with them, now that I'm
confident I know how it works. Thanks to all your helpful feedback, I also
have decided that I want to moderate the group. the only thing I'm still
stuck on is a name. If anyone has any suggestions, shoot them my way, and we
can get this thing up off the ground.

On 2/18/13, Mauricio Almeida <mauriciopmalmeida at gmail.com> wrote:
> i am a google fan, simply because I have worked with the company for  
> a while in pretty much all I do, so I'd be more  inclined to go with 
> google myself.
> as soon as we think of a name, we can creat the list and get it going:D.
>
> Mauricio
> On Feb 18, 2013, at 9:10 PM, Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com>
wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>> I too was envisioning the list as being an informal support group 
>> where young blind adults could talk about social issues like 
>> relationships, getting along with parents, sexuality, etc. I don't 
>> think the list should in any way try to serve as psychotherapy for 
>> people who actually have mental health conditions, although if list 
>> members think they might have a mental health condition and are 
>> looking for professional resources they could ask the list. Ideally, 
>> the moderator would be a list member who would actively participate 
>> and would get involved if there is harassment, flaming or other 
>> egregiously bad list behavior, but who wouldn't necessarily provide 
>> formal advice to list members about the issues they bring up. Many of 
>> these kinds of issues have no clear answer, but it is still helpful 
>> to talk about them with other people who have had similar experiences 
>> in the past or present.
>> Desiree, if you want to moderate I think that's fine, or if you don't 
>> then I can. It sounds like Mauricio already knows how to set up a 
>> group so maybe he should serve as the technical administrator even if 
>> one of us serves as moderator. We should probably use whichever 
>> interface is more accessible, and set the group so anybody can freely 
>> join, but only subscribed members can read the archives.
>> Arielle
>>
>> On 2/18/13, Desiree Oudinot <turtlepower17 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> That makes sense, and that's how I would want my list to be run 
>>> anyway. I would rather have a forum where people can talk openly, 
>>> without a chain of command, so to speak. Of course, when steps need 
>>> to be taken to stop a member from harassing someone, for example, 
>>> moderation needs to happen. But in order to foster trust, I don't 
>>> think a heavy-handed approach, or one where too many professionals 
>>> are involved to the point where they may, however unintentionally, 
>>> invalidate other members' experiences and opinions, would work out 
>>> too well. I was just asking because others may not have seen it that 
>>> way, and I was more or less gauging interest.
>>> With that in mind, let me take a look at the Yahoogroups interface.
>>> I've heard that they made changes to it recently that made it less 
>>> accessible, or maybe that was Google Groups. I've never ran a group 
>>> before, so this is new to me. Either way, the archives would most 
>>> certainly be private.
>>>
>>> On 2/18/13, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>> desiree,
>>>> a blind person who is mature and been through relationships is fine 
>>>> to moderate; professionals can join, but I think the list should be 
>>>> for support, not primarily for therapy.
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Desiree Oudinot
>>>> Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 6:11 PM
>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Forum for discussing social/emotional issues 
>>>> with other blind folks
>>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> Since I was the person who  initially raised this suggestion, I 
>>>> guess I'd better speak up.
>>>> While I do think this is a great idea, and would like to see it 
>>>> happen, I'm not sure I'm the right person to even suggest it. 
>>>> Pardon the pun, but I'm not so sure having the blind lead the blind 
>>>> is such a good idea. To cut to the point, I'm not sure if it would 
>>>> be right of me to moderate such a list when I know I would use it 
>>>> to air out some of my own problems. I'm also not a psychologist, 
>>>> social worker or any other mental health worker. I only bring this 
>>>> up because I'm not sure how formal this group would have to be, and I
don't want any trouble.
>>>> My only other hang-up is that I'm not very good at thinking up 
>>>> clever names, and I'm drawing a blank as to what this hypothetical 
>>>> list should be called. I'm sure others may have some suggestions, 
>>>> though, so that's just a minor inconvenience.
>>>> So, what do you all think? Would you want the list to be moderated 
>>>> and ran by a trained mental health worker? Would you feel 
>>>> uncomfortable with a moderator who used the list for its intended 
>>>> purpose, rather than just sitting in the background and dealing 
>>>> with problems, both tech-related and within the list's members? Let 
>>>> me know, and I'll think about it some more.
>>>>
>>>> On 2/18/13, Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> I can moderate, but would prefer someone who is more tech-savvy 
>>>>> than I to actually set up the list initially.
>>>>> Arielle
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2/18/13, Loren Wakefield <theweird1 at centurylink.net> wrote:
>>>>>> It would be a great idea.  I don't know how those groups work.  
>>>>>> But I suppose one could find out.  However, I am not sure that I 
>>>>>> would have the time to be its moderator.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
>>>>>> Carly Mihalakis
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 3:40 PM
>>>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list; 
>>>>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Forum for discussing social/emotional 
>>>>>> issues with other blind folks
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Great idea! Unfortunately, i am not qualified to set up, or 
>>>>>> moderate the thing, although it is a great idea.At 01:31 PM 
>>>>>> 2/18/2013, Arielle Silverman
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>> A while back some of us talked about creating a list on 
>>>>>>> YahooGroups or GoogleGroups where blind students and mentors 
>>>>>>> could talk about sexuality and social issues. I am wondering if 
>>>>>>> we should go ahead and create this list to be a separate place 
>>>>>>> from NABS-L and one where the topic is a bit more relaxed so 
>>>>>>> that people could post about relationship issues, family 
>>>>>>> difficulties etc. If the list is hosted on YahooGroups, the 
>>>>>>> archives will be private so no one who is not subscribed will be 
>>>>>>> able to read the content of the list (and GoogleGroups might be 
>>>>>>> that way too; I'd have to check).
>>>>>>> The NFB lists tend to be a little strict about topic since they 
>>>>>>> are publicly archived and since they are intended to be about a 
>>>>>>> very specific topic. However that doesn't mean we can't create a 
>>>>>>> separate list that is more of a support group rather than a 
>>>>>>> place to obtain information.
>>>>>>> Does someone want to go ahead and do this?
>>>>>>> Arielle
>>>>>>>
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