[nabs-l] Statistics course

Sun Jan 6 20:25:17 UTC 2013

Hello,
I never talked over the below with my Accessibility Department, I just told 
my aid:
add 1, 2, 3 and 4, then subtract 9 and square root it.
That way the aid is told what button to press in both your languages. I 
doubt that it will even be an issue if you don't bring it up...
I often find that it is best accessibility wise if we remain a little vaig 
to the guys providing my accommodations. They don't need to know exactly 
everything that I do with them. You won't be tested on the button placement 
on the calculator I don't think, so it is not something you need to know.
Thanks,

Brandon Keith Biggs
-----Original Message----- 
From: Mauricio Almeida
Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2013 9:15 AM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Statistics course

hello there,

Please keep in mind I am not sure how your disability office will interpret 
this answer, so you must be a little careful when presenting it to them.
About math player: Michigan state university has adopted them pretty much as 
default to work with things such as webwork, which you will probably end up 
using for homework.
I can tell you that if your jaws is configured correctly it will be just 
fine to read.
there's no need to worry there. the program doesn't require you to do 
anything. it is just an extension for explorer, once installed, boom, you're 
ready to go.
what this means is, there is no such a thing as learning math player.
now about the calculator, and here is where we're going to have a little 
convincing to do on your end:
When I was graduating from the american school of sao paulo, which was for 
years the best american school even if you counted half of the schools in 
the US, I had an assistant for math and science classes, who staked with me 
as well as the professors and students, and who's only job was to adapt 
materials for me and make sure i understood what was going on.
Now, I am not suggesting you ask this to your university, however, here is 
our interpretation as far as calculators:
While some conservative people might think it is useful for you to know that 
say, the plus button is above the minus button and that you must press that 
after the select mode button to make the calculator do this and this, we 
worked on a concept basis: If i knew exactly what the calculator needed tod 
o, for example, calculate the matrix of these numbers, adding them in this 
order) and so on, she did not require me to learn the buttons themselves. it 
saved me time, and in the end of the day she was not doing any work for me.
do you think your office would agree with this kind of approach?

mauricio
On Jan 6, 2013, at 11:58 AM, Kaiti Shelton <crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com> 
wrote:

> Hi Bridget,
>
> I have a question based on your last email.  I too am starting my
> stats course next week and am a little worried about my assignments
> and such.  I had a really old-school braille instructor who taught me
> to use a Perkins brailler all through high school math, but now my
> disability services people want me to learn math player and do
> everything on the computer, which is a little intimidating simply
> because I've never used the computer for math before.  They want me to
> do this though since there is no practical way to translate the
> braille, as we don't have a transcriber or anyone sighted who could
> convert my answers.  They also want me to sit with someone and tell
> them which buttons to push every time we use a graphing calculator.  I
> suggested checking out the stats functions in the BrailleSense
> calculator as well as AGC, but they claim it doesn't have all the
> functions my professor wants us to use.  Like the computer, I'm not
> familiar with print calculators, obviously since I've never used one.
> I know they have random buttons like ABC and such, but I don't know
> what those do and wouldn't know when to use them.  I'm not really
> comfortable going into stats using these things I've never used
> before.  Would you, or anyone else, have other suggestions?
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> On 1/6/13, Bridget Walker <bridgetawalker13 at aol.com> wrote:
>> Hi Justin,
>> During my first year of college I took college algebra and I have a 
>> friend
>> who took psychology statistics last year. We are both Braille readers. I
>> found it was helpful to take notes in my preferred format. Any 
>> assignments
>> that I needed to turn in I had a scribe for as did she. We both took
>> advantage of the tutoring  center and all of our accommodations.  My best
>> advice would be speak to your professor often, if you need help along the
>> way tutoring and direct instruction from the professor are a good way to 
>> go.
>> I never had a problem with accommodations in any of my math or science
>> courses and I'm sure you will be fine.
>>
>> Best of luck
>>
>> Bridget
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Jan 2, 2013, at 6:58 PM, Justin Young <jty727 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi All!
>>>
>>> Hope the New Year is treating you all well!  I have to take a
>>> Statistics course and haven't gone through this course before.  I was
>>> wondering if any could give any pointers on how they survived the
>>> course?  Any suggestions/advice would be much appreciated!
>>>
>>> Justin
>>>
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