[nabs-l] Statistics course

Mon Jan 7 05:55:15 UTC 2013

Hi guys,
I checked my school's version of blackboard and nothing for the course
is up yet.  The stats prof told me a few months ago he was going to
tweak the syllabus a little over break, but I shot him an email hoping
that the changes he wanted to make are either done or close to being
done so I can see what I'm really getting into rather than what the ds
office thinks I'm getting into.

Thankfully, I think they'd let me use my own equipment.  If the prof
is accomodating as he says he is I don't see why he wouldn't, and I
would really prefer to take the tests in class or at least in an
office appointment or something so that he'd be available to answer
questions I might have about the exams.  I haven't had a prof refuse
to let me take tests in class and insist that I schedule them in the
ds office yet, so hopefully my lucky streak will continue.

On 1/6/13, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
> Hi,
> Does your school offer free tutors? Mine did.
> You're right you could type your work. iIts too bad the school won't hire an
>
> aid to help transcribe work.
> If you can tell a reader how to do the problem, that seems fine. you don't
> have to know
> all button locations.
> For instance tell them to type five square route button.
> A classmate may also be able to explain the
> buttons to you as well.
> Hope it works out.
> Ashley
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kaiti Shelton
> Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2013 6:42 PM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Statistics course
>
> Hi Ashley,
>
> I looked into finding a talking calculator, but none of them that I've
> found handle graphing or statistics problems.  It's not that I don't
> know how to use a calculator in it's basic sense, it's just the weird
> equasion buttons like ABC or other things like that I don't get.  I
> don't think those who suggested the conceptual approach meant that the
> person would be doing my work.  If I ask them to plug in a matrix
> equasion with x, y, and z in a specific order, it's the same concept
> just without all the nitty gritty details of each button.  And I'm
> telling the reader the specific equasion to use, so it's not like
> they're just going to do it for me.
>
> I know this is going to sound like I'm making excuses, but I really
> don't think I'd have time to go through the work twice with my
> schedule, and I wouldn't have a reliable person to do it.  I'm taking
> 22 credits this semester so unless I take the ds's approach of
> scheduling homework time with a tutor so they can take down my answers
> as I go I am not sure if scheduling would allow for it.  I also am not
> keen on the idea of paying a math tutor when I don't really need
> tutoring, (It's bad enough I have to pay rent on a TI84+ graphing
> calculator which I can't use myself), just some way to get the work
> back to my teacher.  I would love to just do braille as I have done in
> high school, but in picking and choosing my battles it's not something
> I'm willing to make a big deal of.  Worst case scenario I can write
> out in text any signs or things I don't know how to write with the
> qwerty and ask my professor to clarify for future use.
>
>
> On 1/6/13, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
>> Hi,
>> You need to tell a reader what to press on calculators as they cannot do
>> the
>>
>> work for you.
>> Why not get a talking calculator which looks like the print scientific
>> calculators. Then use a tutor to learn how to do math with it.
>> Also, in terms of transcribing work, you don't have to do it on a pc;
>> after
>>
>> all don't sighted students do it in print?
>> If they use print and scrap paper for their work, you should be able to
>> use
>>
>> braille and your brailler!
>> Just read someone your math problems and they write it in print as you
>> dictate it.
>> In this way, you help them transcribe your work.
>>
>> Ashley
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Kaiti Shelton
>> Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2013 11:58 AM
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Statistics course
>>
>> Hi Bridget,
>>
>> I have a question based on your last email.  I too am starting my
>> stats course next week and am a little worried about my assignments
>> and such.  I had a really old-school braille instructor who taught me
>> to use a Perkins brailler all through high school math, but now my
>> disability services people want me to learn math player and do
>> everything on the computer, which is a little intimidating simply
>> because I've never used the computer for math before.  They want me to
>> do this though since there is no practical way to translate the
>> braille, as we don't have a transcriber or anyone sighted who could
>> convert my answers.  They also want me to sit with someone and tell
>> them which buttons to push every time we use a graphing calculator.  I
>> suggested checking out the stats functions in the BrailleSense
>> calculator as well as AGC, but they claim it doesn't have all the
>> functions my professor wants us to use.  Like the computer, I'm not
>> familiar with print calculators, obviously since I've never used one.
>> I know they have random buttons like ABC and such, but I don't know
>> what those do and wouldn't know when to use them.  I'm not really
>> comfortable going into stats using these things I've never used
>> before.  Would you, or anyone else, have other suggestions?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>
>> On 1/6/13, Bridget Walker <bridgetawalker13 at aol.com> wrote:
>>> Hi Justin,
>>> During my first year of college I took college algebra and I have a
>>> friend
>>> who took psychology statistics last year. We are both Braille readers. I
>>> found it was helpful to take notes in my preferred format. Any
>>> assignments
>>> that I needed to turn in I had a scribe for as did she. We both took
>>> advantage of the tutoring  center and all of our accommodations.  My
>>> best
>>> advice would be speak to your professor often, if you need help along
>>> the
>>> way tutoring and direct instruction from the professor are a good way to
>>> go.
>>> I never had a problem with accommodations in any of my math or science
>>> courses and I'm sure you will be fine.
>>>
>>> Best of luck
>>>
>>> Bridget
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> On Jan 2, 2013, at 6:58 PM, Justin Young <jty727 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi All!
>>>>
>>>> Hope the New Year is treating you all well!  I have to take a
>>>> Statistics course and haven't gone through this course before.  I was
>>>> wondering if any could give any pointers on how they survived the
>>>> course?  Any suggestions/advice would be much appreciated!
>>>>
>>>> Justin
>>>>
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