[nabs-l] in class writing

Kaiti Shelton crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com
Fri Jan 11 21:24:28 UTC 2013


Hi Ashley,

The ultrabooks are sort of replacing the netbooks as was said earlier.
 When closed mine is about 2 inches thick, and I believe I either have
a 17 or a 15 inch screen so it's about average size.  They typically
come with Windows 7 installed and the body of mine is primarily metal,
which is nice because it's pretty durable.  The reason it's so thin
though is because they have taken out the CD drive, but you can get an
external one with a USB cable for about $20 at Walmart and also take
it in your bag if necessary.  Other than that the ultrabooks have the
standard amount of memory, ram, and all that good stuff unless you
choose to upgrade it, so the CD drive is the only real change.

On 1/11/13, Jewel <herekittykat2 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
> I recently heard that companies are discontinuing netbooks for two
> reasons: 1) the ultrabook is a better option than the netbook, and 2)
> tablets are taking over. Netbooks are going to become hard to find,
> and when they die, they'll die for good. An ultrabook or tablet might
> be a better option.
>
> What I do is write the assignment on my laptop during class with
> everyone else, save it to a flash drive, and when everyone turns in
> their assignments on paper, mine just comes in a different format
> (flash drive). Then the teacher can open the file on her or his
> computer, print it if they desire, grade it, and return the flash
> drive to me next class. I keep one flash drive for each class and use
> Dymotape to label each with the first letter of the class (b for
> biology, s for sociology, st for statistics this semester). At the end
> of the semester, I peel off the Dymotape and replace it with letters
> corresponding to the next semester's classes.
>
> ~Jewel
>
> On 1/11/13, Lavonya Gardner <hotdancer1416 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I just email everything to my teacher, and my boss, for theat matter. I
>> have
>> a laptop, so if I need to. I will email myself, but my teacher has an
>> iPone,
>> so she would rather me do things in pages, and or note pad, and just send
>> it. She is deaf, so, we either sign, in person, write, or email when we r
>> not in class.
>>
>> NOTHING ABOUT US, WITHOUT US. AUTISTICS RULE
>>
>> On Jan 10, 2013, at 23:10, "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Lavonya,
>>> nice that you have an ipad and laptop. do you use an external keyboard
>>> or
>>> use the screen?
>>> I might get one for a present. an ipad may be a good portable way for
>>> writing in class or in a situation where I need something portable to
>>> write on. If using an ipad, how do you get your writing to the
>>> professor?
>>> email?
>>> Also, are you able to save the documents as Word files or rich text
>>> format?
>>> Most professors want Microsoft word if possible.
>>>
>>> That's nice an ipad works for you.
>>> Ashley
>>>
>>> -----Original Message----- From: Lavonya Gardner
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 8:47 PM
>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] in class writing
>>>
>>> i just use my iPad, and or laptop. but i sit somewhere close to the
>>> teacher, in case they want to see if i am taking notes, or doing the
>>> written assignment. this way, there is no question about what i am
>>> really
>>> doing. i use zoom text on my laptop, and the print on my iPad is so
>>> huge,
>>> that a teacher can see it, from a pretty good distance.
>>>
>>> NOTHING ABOUT US, WITHOUT US. AUTISTICS RULE
>>>
>>> On Jan 10, 2013, at 16:15, Mary Fernandez <trillian551 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Ashley and all:
>>>> I agree with everything that has been said on this thread. I would
>>>> just like to add a few pointers.
>>>> In college, in addition to purchasing paper folders and binders, I
>>>> also bought about three or four thumb drives. Depending on the
>>>> professor, I might have a thumb drive for just hat course. Most
>>>> college have Wifi everywhere, so if you have a laptop in class
>>>> assignments should never be a problem. However, you have to have a
>>>> plan and discuss it with your professor beforehand. I had an Italian
>>>> class, where the teacher would sometimes write the quiz questions on
>>>> the board. Instead of making me go to the ODS office, she would email
>>>> me the quiz right before class, and I would download it once I got
>>>> into the classroom. As it was a foreign language, and depending on the
>>>> quiz, I'd sometimes take that file, put it in my Braille Note and
>>>> answer the questions. I'd then email it to her right away, and would
>>>> be done along with everyone else in class.
>>>> If you are doing an in-class writing assignment, part of the
>>>> educational challenge is to do it in a short amount of time. So, it is
>>>> not really fair to have an in-class writing assignment, take it home,
>>>> complete it, and then send it to the professor. Instead, if you do not
>>>> have a laptop, I suggest writing it in your braille note, saving it in
>>>> your thumb drive, and giving that to your professor. Otherwise, most
>>>> professors are ok with you emailing things as soon as possible, with
>>>> the understanding that the assignment was completed during class.
>>>> In most colleges, students have their own laptops, and at least a
>>>> handful will bring them to class. So, when it comes to peer-review,
>>>> most of the time, the professors will announce that it is a planned
>>>> activity for a given class. In that case I have done one of two
>>>> things.
>>>> 1. I know that other students bring laptops and pair up with one of
>>>> them. We exchange files via email or thumb drive, and do the editing.
>>>> 2. I notify the professor ahead of time, if they do not allow
>>>> electronics in the classroom, my dilemma, and we figure out a
>>>> solution. that has involved, emailing the assignment to a student
>>>> ahead of time, bringing a print copy and them sending me an electronic
>>>> copy, or simply lifting the electronics band for that particular
>>>> assignment.
>>>> Whatever you choose to do, discuss it with the professor. It is not
>>>> their responsibility to figure out your accommodations for you. You
>>>> are not their only student. So, have a candid conversation during
>>>> which you bring up these scenarios and together you figure out a
>>>> course of action. As blind students who need accommodations, we must
>>>> always keep in mind that we have to take responsibility for our own
>>>> education. While in a perfect world everything would be accessible,
>>>> and everyone would think of the barriers we might face during a
>>>> particular class activity and justify for it, that is not the way it
>>>> works. Here, I'd also like to add a note about always, always abiding
>>>> by the honor code. Professors put a lot of trust in us when they allow
>>>> us to use technologies which most of them do not understand, in order
>>>> for us to have access to the educational materials we need. So, it is
>>>> important, that as responsible, mature adults, we always abide by the
>>>> honor code, and are ethical in the decisions we make when doing our
>>>> academic work. There should never be a question whether accommodations
>>>> compromise academic integrity, and unfortunately the question does
>>>> arise on occasion. And in the long run, that hurts the entire disabled
>>>> student population, and entities will take the few instances where
>>>> accommodations were used to violate academic integrity as a reason why
>>>> accommodations should not be granted. Furthermore, if a student uses
>>>> their accommodations to cheat, if they are caught they now have a
>>>> permanent blemish on their academic record. But even if they are not,
>>>> that student is not actually learning, and so what is the point of
>>>> paying sometimes, hundreds of thousands of dollars to attend an
>>>> educational institution and then squander away the opportunity to
>>>> learn?
>>>>
>>>> Ok, that's my rant for the day.
>>>> Mary
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 1/9/13, Kaiti Shelton <crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> Laptops are the easiest way to go.  We did the same sort of thing with
>>>>> in class writings and peer critiques in a history class I had, and
>>>>> having my partner just look at my screen worked great.  If not then if
>>>>> your professor permits computer use maybe you could save the writing
>>>>> to a flashdrive as a text file and have someone else with a laptop
>>>>> peer review it on their machine?  Then you could also hand that drive
>>>>> to the teacher and not have to worry about remembering to email it in
>>>>> or do anything with it later.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hope this helps.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 1/9/13, Lisa E Roszyk <rosz1878 at fredonia.edu> wrote:
>>>>>> If thbere is in class writing Iuse my laptop if Iknow its going to be
>>>>>> something Iwont have enough time to finishb in class Iwait until ikm
>>>>>> back
>>>>>> in the dorm then email it to the teacher if its a peer edit project
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> depen.ds on the subject but on.e thing Ihave done is find a partner
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> get
>>>>>> the ok to do the work out side of class with them generally typing
>>>>>> over
>>>>>> skype or google doc is great you can type and edit automatically on
>>>>>> each
>>>>>> others documents and Ihave foun.d jaws works ok with it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wednesday, January 9, 2013, christopher nusbaum
>>>>>> <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> What about peer editing?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Chris Nusbaum
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Jan 9, 2013, at 8:19 PM, Misty Dawn Bradley
>>>>>>> <mistydbradley at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>> As for me, I usually type it on my laptop and then email it to the
>>>>>> professor using Wifi. Also, if the professor needs access to the
>>>>>> writing
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> class, if you are using a laptop, you can have your instructor look
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> screen. If you are doing writing as a group, you can type things out
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> let your group members look at the screen. I had one situation in
>>>>>> which
>>>>>> we
>>>>>> had an assignment as a group that we had to write a list of things
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> then
>>>>>> place them on a white board for the class to see, so I just took down
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> list on my laptop and brought the laptop up while another group
>>>>>> member
>>>>>> copied what I had written onto the board. As far as assignments that
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> do
>>>>>> alone in class, my professors so far have been fine with me emailing
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> whenever I was able to get internet access, whether it be at school
>>>>>> or
>>>>>> when
>>>>>> I got home as long as I sent it in on the day of the assignment.
>>>>>> Perhaps
>>>>>> you can make an appointment with the professor ahead of time to work
>>>>>> out
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> plan or place it in your letter of accomodations that you need to
>>>>>> email
>>>>>> class assignments after class is over or at home. Another way to do
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> thumb drive that you save for this purpose that the professor can get
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> file from and then give back to you. If your note taker has a USB
>>>>>> drive,
>>>>>> this might be a good option.
>>>>>>>> Hth,
>>>>>>>> Misty
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ashley Bramlett" <
>>>>>> bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
>>>>>>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" <
>>>>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 7:47 PM
>>>>>>>> Subject: [nabs-l] in class writing
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Professors ask us students to do in-class writing sometimes.
>>>>>>>>> Typically
>>>>>> its unannounced; its not like its on the syllabus but the professor
>>>>>> knows
>>>>>> it usually; I mean they know when they will assign in class writing.
>>>>>> Students are given a certain  amount of time to write and then hand
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> writing. They may share the writing with each other or the class as
>>>>>> well.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> How do you handle in class writing assignments? Do you write them
>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>> notetaker or laptop you take to school? How do you hand it in since
>>>>>> we
>>>>>> are
>>>>>> not writing on paper? So far, I’ve usually written outside class and
>>>>>> emailed the copy to the professor.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have good enough braille skills to read from my braille display
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>> other students, but I don’t usually finish the writing.
>>>>>>>>> I wish there was a computer lab in every building. Then I could
>>>>>>>>> walk
>>>>>> over there, type my writing prompt and then email it to the
>>>>>> professor.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I look forward to ideas.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ashley
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>>>> Mary Fernandez
>>>> "I've learned that people will forget what you said, people will
>>>> forget what you did, but people will never forget how you made them
>>>> feel."
>>>>>>>> Maya Angelou
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