[nabs-l] microsoft access 2007 and jaws

[Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer]

Thanks for the advice, Steve!

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On Jan 12, 2013, at 2:02 PM, "Steve Jacobson" <steve.jacobson at visi.com> wrote:

> Here is another of my "muddy waters" notes.  It is hard to say flat out that Microsoft Access 2007 is not accessible.  There are several problems.  First, 
> Microsoft Access is a very complicated program for everybody.  There is quite a learning curve.  Some things in Access are not obvious.  For example, 
> pressing F11 turns on and off the "Shutter Bar" that makes it possible to do more navigation within a database.  It is also very possible that it won't work at 
> all well unless you have a recent version of JFW.  I am a Window-Eyes user so I don't know how critical the version is.  However, I am able to add and 
> edit records in a table with Window-Eyes using Access 2007.  Having said that, I cannot tell you that I can do everything because I don't use every part 
> of Microsoft Access, nor am I saying that Window-Eyes is a perfect solution, either.
> 
> In addition, if you use Microsoft Access with earlier versions of an Access database, later versions of access will sometimes restrict what you can do with 
> older databases unless you turn off certain security features.  This can cause some things that work in 2003 to not work in 2007.  If you are mostly using 
> your own databases and tables, turning off security settings isn't risky.  
> 
> It is very hard to know to whom to complain to when some of the fault is with Microsoft and some of the fault is with screen reader support.  Screen 
> readers tend to not support Access as much as they might because it is complicated and takes a good bit of work and it is one of the less used pieces of 
> software so they don't increase sales all that much as a result of their efforts.
> 
> If you want to design something simple for yourself, don't overlook just putting data into an Excel spreadsheet.  Spreadsheets don't have to all contain 
> numbers.  If you have to use Access, though, maybe something above might work.  It's worth trying with NVDA, too, as sometimes NVDA is better with 
> newer versions of Microsoft products.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Steve Jacobson
> 
> On Fri, 11 Jan 2013 19:44:27 -0500, Ashley Bramlett wrote:
> 
>> unfortunately access and jaws are not accessible; why doesn't nfb complain 
>> to microsoft about it?
>> Since 2007 version they changed the layout so we cannot use it; you have to 
>> use access 2003 for it to be accessible.
> 
>> -----Original Message----- 
>> From: Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer
>> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 3:06 PM
>> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: [nabs-l] microsoft access 2007 and jaws
> 
>> Hi everyone,
>>  I am running Windows XP, Jaws 12 latest, and microsoft access on my 
>> school laptop. How does one go about manipulating data with that setup? I 
>> have been able to find some data but have not been able to edit it.
>> Sent from HP Laptop
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